History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
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History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
Anatoly Fomenko
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Recorded history is a finely-woven magic fabric of intricate lies about events predating the sixteenth century. There is not a single piece of evidence that can be reliably and independently traced back earlier than the eleventh century. This book details events that are substantiated by hard facts and logic, and validated by new astronomical research and statistical analysis of ancient sources.

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3 out of 5 stars Calculations are only as good as your numbers.......2007-08-03

Yes, we can all agree that mainstream history is nearly 100% BS due to politics, economics, ego, problems with dating techniques, and various conspiracies. Agreed. But, I've been researching the distinct possibility that human history (in terms of civilizations) are much more ancient than we've been told, so coming across this book was very interesting to me. I wondered how Fomenko could be wrong (if at all) because he is very persuasive in his presentations. Then it dawned on me. If at previous times in prehistory, due to the various catastrophies that are well documented (comets, asteroids, planetary disruptions, plasma discharge, pole reversals, etc) the Earth was in a different position in relation to the sun, different tilt on its axis, different orbit, different rotation (in terms of velocity and DIRECTION), and the continents were in different positions, then would this not cause the ancients to see the sky (constellations) differently? In other words, is Fomenko making erronious assumptions about the physics of the Earth in pre-history, which then corrupt his data with regards to dating the relevant astrology? The last event to seriously disrupt our planet occured roughly 3500 years ago, according to other good researchers, so is it possible Fomenko has been confused by this? The vastly different physics of our planet in the not so distant past may explain this confusion, which is not to say the "mainstream" version of history is correct; on the contrary. I am not an expert in these fields, but wanted to see if this idea could spark discussion.

5 out of 5 stars Pants on fire?.......2007-07-19

Will people ever read before spamming? Yes, Jesuits could not rewrite world history alone, they had help. Anyway, Dr Prof Acad A.Fomenko does not point to jesuits as the driving force of world wide history manipulation in published volumes 1,2,3;, actually he barely mentions the poor devils. Check it with 'Search inside' feature, please. China is rarely mentioned either, in fact, Dr Fomenko is completely eurocentric. Right, his theory contradicts all mainstream schools of history, because in their actual state they are all built on blatantly erroneus chronology. You don't need a mysterious cabal (conspiracy) to falsify history, the falsification is its modus operandi. It is inherent to history(ians) to falsify (distort) events, as it is inherent to humans to boast as it is inherent to power (authority) to legimize itself by referrring to glorious past made to its own order. Dr Prof Fomenko and team have identified scores of instances of such manipulation in Russian, European, etc.. history, and delivered valid statistical proof thereof. His own 'reconstruction' is completely another story. Forget c14 as a valid method of dating. W.Libby has initially discovered a brilliant method of INDEPENDENT dating. Too bad, c14 method has become a joke after a forced marrige with dendrochronology with consensual chronological scale inbuilt. Radiocarbon method can't stand blind tests, but is so very productive as a rubberstamp.

5 out of 5 stars Accepted History & Chronology Must Be Changed. .......2007-04-09

There is no doubt that history as most know it is a sham, & institution's version of History both University & Church is fradulent & inaccurate. Everything was established with an agenda, The real "Dark Ages" are now when we have access to incredible amounts of information past authorities & more important 'common folk' didn't have but our institutions & educators are slow to evolve because of what has ignorantly & arrogantly been taught for too long. This is on many subjects not just Chronology.

For anyone to question "Why would a Mathematician have anything credible to say of History?" The answer is from Dr. Fomenko's preface in the book: "It would be worthwhile to remind the reader that in the XVI-XVII century Chronology was considered to be a subdivision of Mathematics." These volumes could possibly be some of the most important works to date & should be read by everyone with an interest in History, especially professors & educators who have a duty to the public. I have read both books & must say that 'Chronology 1' has some very eye opening & revolutionary information. Even if these volumes are part true the implications are profound & opens the doors to further investigations & questions which must be done. I speak several different lanquages & must say the logic Dr. Fomenko uses with "inflection" of words & words being read from left to right in one region & right to left in another then written backwards, the removal of vowels & get down to basics of words, or different cities & locations having the same name etc. is correct. Vowel usage has always been optional & varied, actually complicating linquistics & study. The first thing one has to understand is that words never had a fixed spelling in history like we do now, the spelling of words was mutable & regional, as well as names & titles of people were vast, varied & changed, NOTHING WAS FIXED or understood linear. Matters of Life & Death as well as financial profiteering yesterday & today were & are made with ignorant, illogical & conspiratorial views of history & reality, it's time people get closer to the Truth & society collectively grow up.

5 out of 5 stars Very Interesting.......2007-03-07

It is a good proposal and I believe it will mature into something even better in the future. I think it deserves to be read.

4 out of 5 stars History as Science Fiction.......2007-01-10

Anatoly Fomenko has written a very intriguing book, full of pictures, charts, and computer 'proof' of his thesis: backwards of AD900 we don't really know what happened or when. Between AD900 and AD1600 there is more certainty, but there is still a lot of fuzzy ground, and things don't get reliable until we get past the 1600's where the printing press made it very difficult for the perpetrators of this timeline manipulation to change anything that had been committed to print. The Dark Ages did not happen. Books were burned for a reason. One organization has doubled the actual length of its existence by expanding the real chronology. Read why.

I had always wondered why Christ died about AD33 and yet men waited until the 11th century to form the Knights Templar, the Cathars, etc and go after the Holy Land by force. Why the 1000 year gap? Turns out there wasn't more than a 10-12 year gap and he proves it using astronomy. This also implies that the planet is not as old as we have been told, and current Christian and other creationist scientists are already championing that idea without being aware of Fomenko's book. The two groups, creationist scientists and the Russian mathematical analysts corroborate each other. Fascinating.

Of course, all this flies in the face of what we have been told traditionally is the 'proper' chronology of western civilization, and most readers will experience 'cognitive dissonance' in reading this book. It means that our history going backwards from AD1600 becomes progressively more incorrect and unreliable until it cannot be trusted at all... in the space of 700-800 years.

Naturally, the curious, open-minded reader will want to know WHO did this, WHY, and did any of the events we think of as really ancient ever happen?
Dr. Fomenko is a respected scientist/mathematician at Moscow State University who has already answered these questions to the satisfaction of his initially skeptical colleagues. Most of them are now believers, a few still refuse to believe (the usual diehards), and of course the western press has ignored Fomenko's work -- for obvious reasons when you read the book. The ones who perpetrated this chronology ruse have a lot to answer for. They are still with us. That's why this book is a well-kept secret.

I gave the book a 4-star rating because I was unable to check out some of his claims; those I checked were as he said. But if even 1/3 of his claims are true, this punches a big hole in what we think is our history, the meaning of western civilization, our educational process (for repeating the ruse as gospel), and the trustworthiness of the organization that perpetrated this ruse, well-intentioned or not.

This book relates to current research into a Young Earth paradigm, to John Keel's discoveries about our planet, and Fr Malachi Martin's insights (in his now out-of-print books). We are indeed sheep who are manipulated and kept ignorant -- for a reason. While knowing what these men have to say may be the "booby prize" (as in: 'what can you do with this knowledge?'), it will provide interesting reading. Didn't someone say: "...and the Truth will set you free."?? For you to judge if this book contains the truth.
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    The Calliope Caper: Sailor's Copy (Patch the Pirate Series)

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    Each Man Cried Out to His God: The Specialized Religion of Canaanite and Phoenician Seafarers (Harvard Semitic Monographs)
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    • The Religion of the Greatest Seafarers of the Ancient World
    Each Man Cried Out to His God: The Specialized Religion of Canaanite and Phoenician Seafarers (Harvard Semitic Monographs)
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    5 out of 5 stars The Religion of the Greatest Seafarers of the Ancient World.......2003-03-15

    The title of Aaron Brody's book is, of course, a quote from the biblical story of Jonah. In the story, the prophet Jonah tries to escape the will of Yahweh by boarding a ship at Jaffa which is bound for Tarshish. It is clear from the story that the sailors are non-Israelites; they are most likely Phoenicians.

    Brody has written a comprehensive anthropological study of the religion of the Phoenicians and those whom he considers their predecessors, the Canaanites. The study is divided into five parts; the patron deities, the sacred shrines, the sacred space aboard a ship (Interestingly, sailors ancient and modern believe that their ship is imbued with a spirit), religious ceremonies of the seafarers, and burial practices of the seafarers (See Ezekiel 27 for mourning of fellow sailors lost at sea).

    For someone like me who has an interest in sailing and the Ancient Near East, this book was a natural.
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      The Lord God of the flesh (Pocket books)
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          Sailors & God
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              The Third Coast: Sailors, Strippers, Fishermen, Folksingers, Long-Haired Ojibway Painters, and God-Save-the-Queen Monarchists of the Great Lakes
              Ted McClelland
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              Chronicling the author’s 10,000-mile “Great Lakes Circle Tour,” this travel memoir seeks to answer a burning question: Is there a Great Lakes culture, and if so, what is it? Largely associated with the Midwest, the Great Lakes region actually has a culture that transcends the border between the United States and Canada. United by a love of encased meats, hockey, beer, snowmobiling, deer hunting, and classic-rock power ballads, the folks in Detroit have more in common with citizens in Windsor, Ontario, than those in Wichita, Kansas—while Toronto residents have more in common with Chicagoans than Montreal's population. Much more than a typical armchair travel book, this humorous cultural exploration is filled with quirky people and unusual places that prove the obscure is far more interesting than the well known.

              When God Was an Atheist Sailor: Memories of a Childhood at Sea 1902-1910
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              When God Was an Atheist Sailor: Memories of a Childhood at Sea 1902-1910
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              5 out of 5 stars a good read 4 u.......2001-03-01

              This book is a very good description of what it was like to be a little girl growing up on a sailing ship. It was the closing era of the age of sail and the author's father was the master of a sailing ship. The author was BORN at sea. They plied the Pacific coast of America hauling lumber and guano. My mother gave me a copy of this book. Her father had worked on those very same vessels and she said that it brought it to life for her.
              A sailor's last liberty call: day is gone the sun, from the hills, from the lake, from the skies. All is well, safely rest, God is nigh.(shipboard accident) : An article from: Sea&Shore
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                A sailor's last liberty call: day is gone the sun, from the hills, from the lake, from the skies. All is well, safely rest, God is nigh.(shipboard accident) : An article from: Sea&Shore
                Ken Testorff
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                This digital document is an article from Sea&Shore, published by Thomson Gale on December 22, 2005. The length of the article is 1396 words. The page length shown above is based on a typical 300-word page. The article is delivered in HTML format and is available in your Amazon.com Digital Locker immediately after purchase. You can view it with any web browser.

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                Title: A sailor's last liberty call: day is gone the sun, from the hills, from the lake, from the skies. All is well, safely rest, God is nigh.(shipboard accident)
                Author: Ken Testorff
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                Date: December 22, 2005
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                Gurdjieff: The Anatomy of a Myth : A Biography
                Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
                • Warts and All
                • A good presentation of the details of Gurdjieff's life
                Gurdjieff: The Anatomy of a Myth : A Biography
                James Moore
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                5 out of 5 stars Warts and All.......2006-01-25


                *Gurdjieffian Confessions: A Self Remembered

                James Moore


                Hove: Gurdjieff Studies Limited, 2005, 281 pp., h/b - ISBN 0 9549470 0 2


                Reviewed by Holly Baggett
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                Warts and All: the honest confessions of a Fourth Way seeker
                In this highly engaging memoir James Moore, biographer of George Gurdjieff (1866-1949), Greco-Armenian philosopher and gnostic teacher of the Fourth Way, shares an inside view of London Gurdjieff circles from mid-50s Britain to roughly 1980.

                Introduced to Gurdjieff by public library copies of Ouspensky's In Search of the Miraculous and Kenneth Walker's Venture with Ideas, Moore summons up the courage to write Walker a letter. An invitation to his first meeting ends with the door slammed unceremoniously in his face, but our young hero perseveres. Moore never really explains (if such a thing is possible in this type of memoir) what it is precisely about the Gurdjieffian universe that captures him so completely. It is clear, however, that the secret society aura makes for a dramatic contrast from his day-to-day drudgery as a civil servant in the Admiralty.

                Moore is an accomplished autodidact. There are philosophical conundrums for him - he longs to understand Gurdjieff within a larger cultural and historical context - where does he fit in with `Adorno, Buber, Eliot, Heidegger', et al., and he is fascinated by the possibilities of germane paths in a variety of religious and artistic traditions. Persuaded by his teachers not to entangle Gurdjieff's ideas with strands of modernism, Moore soldiers on.

                In fact, he sticks with it for fifty years in spite of suffering the absurd politics of huge and petty egos so often displayed by the spiritually advanced. Not that he lets them off the hook. Indeed, while Moore portrays himself as an earnest young man who respectfully defers to the Gurdjieffian hierarchy, the reader suspects his only genuine reverence is for his mentor Henriette Lannes, one of the few to escape his scathing characterisations. A small sampling of portraits includes `a poisoned gumdrop', `small grey squirrel with an attitude' and `looking like Shelley Winters on a bender.' We have firsthand accounts of Jane Heap, Pamela Travers, and J.G. Bennett, all legendary figures who met the master himself, but in Moore's hands fare no better in presentation than those lower on the esoteric food chain. This tone does not come off as mean spirited, however, and the reader can't help but smile, if only from the sheer cheekiness of it all.

                One unintended slice of humour is Moore's rendition of the pompous super-secret machinations to hide the preparations for Peter Brook's film adaptation of Gurdjieff's memoir Meetings with Remarkable Men, given the fact that the finished product embarrassed almost everyone involved. To their credit Moore and most of his contemporaries were brutally honest about the film -- Moore recalling that the script `seemed pitched at an audience with learning difficulties.'

                Moore eventually blooms as the author of two impressive books Gurdjieff and Mansfield and the authoritative biography Gurdjieff: Anatomy of a Myth. He ascends to the role of teacher, but the future is anything but smooth. He uses his literary talents launching `counter thrusts against the opportunistic appropriations and distortions which multiplied worldwide' but it will be his own work that is seen as threatening to the powers that be.

                His article `Moveable Feasts: The Gurdjieff Work ` which criticised the twin movements of watering down the message while creating a fossilised `church' led to his `excommunication' and temporary spiritual and social limbo. As Moore points out, it now seems like a tempest in a teapot but the Gurdjiefffian orthodoxy, unlike the master himself, had no sense of humour.

                The entire story is not of Gurdjieff family dysfunction, but endearing tales of his own family and affectionate portraits of friendships that lasted for decades. At the age of seventy-five Moore's story inevitably contains losses poignantly remembered. A gifted writer, he does an admirable job of evoking England from the post-war Angry Young Men to the late seventies Winter of Discontent. Confessions is not the bland mind numbing account of one man's spiritual journey so often found in this genre. It is a gem of a book, equally fascinating for those inside and out of `the Work.'

                Professor Holly A. Baggett teaches American History and Gender Studies at Southwest Missouri State University. She is an authority on Gurdjieff's pupil Jane Heap, whose letters to Florence Reynolds she edited for New York University Press.


                5 out of 5 stars A good presentation of the details of Gurdjieff's life.......2002-07-27

                James Moore achieves with this book not only to give
                a many-sided picture of Gurdjieff, but also of his search
                for truth, the main ideas of what he taught and how he
                accomplished it as a teacher.

                In addition you will find a detailed chronology of Gurdjieff's
                life, clarifying notes on many subjects, full references
                to the sources of the book and a select bibliography.

                Mr. Moore's background in the Gurdjieff Work has given
                him direct contacts with many people who knew Gurdjieff
                or his teaching well. This has given him the possibility
                to write of many things that can not be found in any
                other books.

                I like the contents and the way he writes!
                Gurdjieff: A Biography : The Anatomy of a Myth
                Average customer rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars
                • Actually it's a good book
                • What a shame.
                • Scholarly and helpful objective history
                Gurdjieff: A Biography : The Anatomy of a Myth
                James Moore
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                In this first major biography of George Ivanovitch Gurdjieff, James Moore offers an entertaining and reliable introduction to one of the Western world's most remarkable and little-understood revolutionary thinkers. The turbulent half-century since the death of Gurdjieff, holistic philosopher and 'Teacher of Dancing', has seen unprecedented changes, yet the fundamental suffering and entrapment of humanity remains the same. Gurdjieff's work is perhaps more relevant today than ever before and this masterly tribute has a vital role to play in ensuring that his ideas reach new generations of readers in search of authentic spiritual teachings.

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                5 out of 5 stars Actually it's a good book.......2001-08-22

                I'll just say briefly that this book is the best biographic text of Gurdjieff available, and while it is a bit prolix it is not purple, as someone claimed. Actually I find it almost novelistically readable.

                1 out of 5 stars What a shame........2000-09-01

                Gurdjieff remains a fascinating figure. Sadly the standard of writing is very poor. I don't know a great deal about the author but he sure ain't a scholar or academic on this evidence. Too much horrible, purple prose. Borrow it rather than buy it. Better still search for one of the few people still alive who can give a personal account of G.

                4 out of 5 stars Scholarly and helpful objective history.......1999-11-09

                Having read this twice through, and having read a fair amount of related material, I must say that this is worth the time spent. Without getting lost in the ideas, the author introduced enough of them to be provacative and helpful, while covering the history more throughly than I have seen elsewhere. The book is very well written with good photographs and a great annotation section at the end which is particularly helpful. For those who enjoy fourth way reading, this book has a special place by mining some of the work idea vein while serving primarliy as a means of placing it in history. Definitely gives a good feeling of what an unusual, powerful and challenging man Gurdjieff was.

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                5. John Ringo: The Final Hours
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