History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)

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Recorded history is a finely-woven magic fabric of intricate lies about events predating the sixteenth century. There is not a single piece of evidence that can be reliably and independently traced back earlier than the eleventh century. This book details events that are substantiated by hard facts and logic, and validated by new astronomical research and statistical analysis of ancient sources.

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Calculations are only as good as your numbers.......2007-08-03

Yes, we can all agree that mainstream history is nearly 100% BS due to politics, economics, ego, problems with dating techniques, and various conspiracies. Agreed. But, I've been researching the distinct possibility that human history (in terms of civilizations) are much more ancient than we've been told, so coming across this book was very interesting to me. I wondered how Fomenko could be wrong (if at all) because he is very persuasive in his presentations. Then it dawned on me. If at previous times in prehistory, due to the various catastrophies that are well documented (comets, asteroids, planetary disruptions, plasma discharge, pole reversals, etc) the Earth was in a different position in relation to the sun, different tilt on its axis, different orbit, different rotation (in terms of velocity and DIRECTION), and the continents were in different positions, then would this not cause the ancients to see the sky (constellations) differently? In other words, is Fomenko making erronious assumptions about the physics of the Earth in pre-history, which then corrupt his data with regards to dating the relevant astrology? The last event to seriously disrupt our planet occured roughly 3500 years ago, according to other good researchers, so is it possible Fomenko has been confused by this? The vastly different physics of our planet in the not so distant past may explain this confusion, which is not to say the "mainstream" version of history is correct; on the contrary. I am not an expert in these fields, but wanted to see if this idea could spark discussion.

Pants on fire?.......2007-07-19

Will people ever read before spamming? Yes, Jesuits could not rewrite world history alone, they had help. Anyway, Dr Prof Acad A.Fomenko does not point to jesuits as the driving force of world wide history manipulation in published volumes 1,2,3;, actually he barely mentions the poor devils. Check it with 'Search inside' feature, please. China is rarely mentioned either, in fact, Dr Fomenko is completely eurocentric. Right, his theory contradicts all mainstream schools of history, because in their actual state they are all built on blatantly erroneus chronology. You don't need a mysterious cabal (conspiracy) to falsify history, the falsification is its modus operandi. It is inherent to history(ians) to falsify (distort) events, as it is inherent to humans to boast as it is inherent to power (authority) to legimize itself by referrring to glorious past made to its own order. Dr Prof Fomenko and team have identified scores of instances of such manipulation in Russian, European, etc.. history, and delivered valid statistical proof thereof. His own 'reconstruction' is completely another story. Forget c14 as a valid method of dating. W.Libby has initially discovered a brilliant method of INDEPENDENT dating. Too bad, c14 method has become a joke after a forced marrige with dendrochronology with consensual chronological scale inbuilt. Radiocarbon method can't stand blind tests, but is so very productive as a rubberstamp.

Accepted History & Chronology Must Be Changed. .......2007-04-09

There is no doubt that history as most know it is a sham, & institution's version of History both University & Church is fradulent & inaccurate. Everything was established with an agenda, The real "Dark Ages" are now when we have access to incredible amounts of information past authorities & more important 'common folk' didn't have but our institutions & educators are slow to evolve because of what has ignorantly & arrogantly been taught for too long. This is on many subjects not just Chronology.

For anyone to question "Why would a Mathematician have anything credible to say of History?" The answer is from Dr. Fomenko's preface in the book: "It would be worthwhile to remind the reader that in the XVI-XVII century Chronology was considered to be a subdivision of Mathematics." These volumes could possibly be some of the most important works to date & should be read by everyone with an interest in History, especially professors & educators who have a duty to the public. I have read both books & must say that 'Chronology 1' has some very eye opening & revolutionary information. Even if these volumes are part true the implications are profound & opens the doors to further investigations & questions which must be done. I speak several different lanquages & must say the logic Dr. Fomenko uses with "inflection" of words & words being read from left to right in one region & right to left in another then written backwards, the removal of vowels & get down to basics of words, or different cities & locations having the same name etc. is correct. Vowel usage has always been optional & varied, actually complicating linquistics & study. The first thing one has to understand is that words never had a fixed spelling in history like we do now, the spelling of words was mutable & regional, as well as names & titles of people were vast, varied & changed, NOTHING WAS FIXED or understood linear. Matters of Life & Death as well as financial profiteering yesterday & today were & are made with ignorant, illogical & conspiratorial views of history & reality, it's time people get closer to the Truth & society collectively grow up.

Very Interesting.......2007-03-07

It is a good proposal and I believe it will mature into something even better in the future. I think it deserves to be read.

History as Science Fiction.......2007-01-10

Anatoly Fomenko has written a very intriguing book, full of pictures, charts, and computer 'proof' of his thesis: backwards of AD900 we don't really know what happened or when. Between AD900 and AD1600 there is more certainty, but there is still a lot of fuzzy ground, and things don't get reliable until we get past the 1600's where the printing press made it very difficult for the perpetrators of this timeline manipulation to change anything that had been committed to print. The Dark Ages did not happen. Books were burned for a reason. One organization has doubled the actual length of its existence by expanding the real chronology. Read why.

I had always wondered why Christ died about AD33 and yet men waited until the 11th century to form the Knights Templar, the Cathars, etc and go after the Holy Land by force. Why the 1000 year gap? Turns out there wasn't more than a 10-12 year gap and he proves it using astronomy. This also implies that the planet is not as old as we have been told, and current Christian and other creationist scientists are already championing that idea without being aware of Fomenko's book. The two groups, creationist scientists and the Russian mathematical analysts corroborate each other. Fascinating.

Of course, all this flies in the face of what we have been told traditionally is the 'proper' chronology of western civilization, and most readers will experience 'cognitive dissonance' in reading this book. It means that our history going backwards from AD1600 becomes progressively more incorrect and unreliable until it cannot be trusted at all... in the space of 700-800 years.

Naturally, the curious, open-minded reader will want to know WHO did this, WHY, and did any of the events we think of as really ancient ever happen?
Dr. Fomenko is a respected scientist/mathematician at Moscow State University who has already answered these questions to the satisfaction of his initially skeptical colleagues. Most of them are now believers, a few still refuse to believe (the usual diehards), and of course the western press has ignored Fomenko's work -- for obvious reasons when you read the book. The ones who perpetrated this chronology ruse have a lot to answer for. They are still with us. That's why this book is a well-kept secret.

I gave the book a 4-star rating because I was unable to check out some of his claims; those I checked were as he said. But if even 1/3 of his claims are true, this punches a big hole in what we think is our history, the meaning of western civilization, our educational process (for repeating the ruse as gospel), and the trustworthiness of the organization that perpetrated this ruse, well-intentioned or not.

This book relates to current research into a Young Earth paradigm, to John Keel's discoveries about our planet, and Fr Malachi Martin's insights (in his now out-of-print books). We are indeed sheep who are manipulated and kept ignorant -- for a reason. While knowing what these men have to say may be the "booby prize" (as in: 'what can you do with this knowledge?'), it will provide interesting reading. Didn't someone say: "...and the Truth will set you free."?? For you to judge if this book contains the truth.

First Crusade: The Chronicle of Fulcher of Chartres and Other Source Materials (Middle Ages Series)

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Peter's Collection of Primary Sources Only Partial

First Crusade: The Chronicle of Fulcher of Chartres and Other Source Materials (Middle Ages Series)
Edward Peters
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ASIN: 0812216563

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The First Crusade received its name and shape late. To its contemporaries, the event was a journey and the men who took part in it pilgrims. Only later were those participants dubbed Crusaders--"those signed with the Cross." In fact, many developments wit

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Excellent collection of source material.......2006-03-09

I'd like to offer a counterpoint to the rather harsh reviews of this book offered elsewhere on Amazon. While the other reviewers' points about the limited scope of Peters's collection and his choice of organization have some basis, they do not significantly weaken his achievement.

The introduction is worth the cost of the book itself; in it, Peters gives an excellent summary of the continent-wide debate preceding the First Crusade about killing in a Christian context: in a surprisingly short period, a new idea arose that actually encouraged Christian knights to go on crusade. While killing was normally wrong, avenging the deaths of other Christians and meting out God's justice on earth came to be seen as positively redeeming for Christian soldiers; one result of this was the birth of a new epoch in the West, the Crusades. I cannot think of a better way to characterize the ethos of the half-millennium from 1095 to 1565 (the Christian knights' successful defense of Malta) than to call it the Age of Crusade. The introduction also does a good job of setting up the geopolitical chessboard of the day, explaining some of the political reasons that inspired Urban II to make his seminal speech at Clermont.

Peters makes no claim that I can find to being exhaustive; rather, his book is intended to give the average student of the First Crusade a background in the original sources. Surely this is a worthy goal; I would rather have my students read 50 pages of orignal, 900-year-old text than 300 pages of wordy academese or casual potboiler history. Furthermore, this book inspires the reader to seek out complete editions of Fulcher, William of Tyre, and the other writers represented. I can think of no better introduction to the First Crusade than this.

Book organization and content not for general reader........2001-08-19

Having read Penguin's very good "Chronicles of the Crusades" (covering the 4th and 7th Crusades) I ran across this book and thought it would provide some intersting stories from the 1st Crusade. But it has taken me months to get through it, in large part because it seems to have been organized principally to suit a scholar of the Crusades and not the general reader. Book I of the Chronicle of Fulcher of Chartres is fine enough, but hardly stirring. While the rest of the book then assembles other sources by subject. The chapters follow on "Peter the Hermet", "Journey to Constantinople", "At Constantinople", "Siege of Nicea", "Siege of Antioch", and "Siege of Jerusalem", where in each chapter the sources are broken up so you read each version of the same event one after the other. It is really just a collection of translations with minimal explanation, no extras (such as maps), and does not seem suited for the general reader. It is for this reason that I rate it lower. If the sources were presented in full and not broken up by subject, I would have given it an extra star. Although as the content goes it seems thorough to me (including parts from the accounts of Raymond d'Aguilers, Peter Tudebode, The Gesta Version, and Anna Comnena), even including a few Arabic sources. However, only buy this if you are a Crusade scholar, for the general reader it does get tedious very quickly.

Peter's Collection of Primary Sources Only Partial.......2000-05-09

While this collection of chronicles of the First Crusade from primary sources is certainly valuable, it is limited by the fact that the editor has chosen to include only those sources that have already been translated, thus leaving many other valuable and informative accounts absent. As many of the chroniclers' accounts possess bias and errors, or were written secondhand or after events had taken place, only a reading of all the primary sources offers the reader the chance to sift and attempt to reassemble events through comparison. In this regard John France's book "Victory in the East," while a secondary retelling from a largely military perspective, perhaps offers greater value.

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A DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF SLAUGHTER.......1999-03-22

A documented, detailed history of the slaughter that the First and Second crusades rained upon innocent Jews that had the misfortune to live in their paths.

Deus Io Volt!: Chronicle of the Crusades

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a rollicking good ride with an authentic voice
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Interesting, but I prefer Agori's novel

Deus Io Volt!: Chronicle of the Crusades
Evan S. Connell
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Thanks to the big screen, Evan Connell may be best known for Mr Bridge and Mrs Bridge, his-and-hers novels in which he recorded the tribulations of a Midwestern family. But Connell is no mere purveyor of WASPish minimalism. His greatest accomplishment to date is probably Son of the Morning Star, an account of Custer's foolish and fatal engagement at Little Big Horn, and Deus lo Volt! is cut from a similar historical cloth. This time, however, Connell has chosen a lengthier (and bloodier) conflict for his subject: Christendom's crusade against the Muslims.

Pope Urban set this so-called holy war in motion in 1095, when he urged a vast army to reclaim Jerusalem from those "Turks, Persians, Arabs, accursed, estranged from God, that have laid waste by fire and sword to the walls of Constantinople, to the Arm of Saint George." In no time at all, entire nations obliged him:

Does not a wheel turn slowly at first? Now faster, faster. Knights mortgaged their estates, great or small, farmers sold their plows, artisans their tools, each after his fashion preparing to liberate the Holy Land. Some who felt reluctant or undecided got unwelcome gifts to express contempt, a knitting needle, a distaff. Meanwhile the clerics of France distributed swords, staves, pilgrim wallets.

Rallying to the cry of Deus lo volt! ("God wills it!"), these liberators threw themselves at the ramparts of Jerusalem for nearly 200 years. The sheer duration of the conflict would tax the skills of almost any traditional novelist, which probably explains why Connell has instead produced a quasi-medieval chronicle--one of those kitchen-sink creations in which mighty battles lie cheek by jowl with domestic anecdotes, historical background, character sketches, and an abundance of miracles. His prose echoes the language of the period without ever lapsing into Prince Valiant-style mannerism, and the result is a fascinating hybrid of scholarship and swordplay. At times the carnage defies belief: "Here were Angevins and Normans thrusting through eyes, through mouths, chopping off hands or feet, so many Turks dropping that pilgrims stumbled over heaps of bodies on the sand." Among other things, however, Deus lo Volt! is an astonishing episode in the history of ethnic cleansing, which makes it not only a medieval epic but a disturbingly modern one. --Bob Brandeis

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A magisterial work of historical imagination-a stunningly immediate, first-person account of one soldier's experience of the defining war of Christendom

God wills it! The year is 1095. Thousands of men, including many of the leaders of the Christian world, have assembled in a meadow in France near Clermont. Pope Urban appeals for the liberation of Jerusalem and the people shout, Deus lo volt! The cry is taken up, echoes forth, is carried on. The crusades have begun. Wave upon wave of Christian pilgrims assault the growing power of the Muslims in the Holy Land-and will do so for the next two hundred years. Most able men become soldiers of the Cross, and many of their women fight alongside them. It is a time of great adventure-of great exploration and cultural change. Uniting Christian Europe in a common cause, the crusades defined forever the spirit of the West.

Praise for A Long Desire, Connell's book on the great explorers:

"Quite simply, a great book...Combining a poet's vision with the narrative sweep of a born storyteller with painstaking historical research, Connell revives the lost sense of awe and wonder that, along with the misery and privation, must have marked these epic voyages of body and mind."
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Did not finish.......2007-09-01

I put this item on my wish list, purchased it in another book store, and finally got to read it. Only to be thoroughly disappointed with it. I was expecting something along the lines of a knight telling of his own experiences in the Crusades. Unfortunately, the author attempted to novelize the entire era without giving the reader a character to center his/her attention. I got extremely bored and had to quit reading it.I Set Before You This Day makes better recreational reading.

All Historical Books Should Be This Way.......2006-04-07

This book is great. I think of it as being the "Anabasis of the Crusaders".

The older style of english in this book is really simple to read, and its great how well all of the history is tied together in this narrative without ever getting sidetracked.

If you need a very good book to show you this history of the crusades as they were, this is the book.

Any movie based off of the Crusades should be built from this book.

The barbarism of the Christian Jihad in this book is far worse than I ever imagined. People can whine and cry about this book all that they want, and say that the author has certain biased views.

It doesnt matter, the book is objective and it tells the truth.

This is the best written historical book that Ive ever read, and it reminds me of the Anabasis of Xenophon, or the one by Arrian.

I thought it interesting how during the first crusade as the pilgrims were besieging the walls of Jerusalem, the Saracens inside were walking around with banners with Muhammad on them =)

a rollicking good ride with an authentic voice.......2006-01-04

This book is very entertaining. It took me about four tries to get through it, but I kept coming back for more. Since characters come and go over the more than a century and a half sweep of this narrative and there is no simple overarching plot, it doesn't suffer much from such sporadic reading, particularly if you have some prior knowledge of the history it covers.
Deus Lo Volt doesn't whitewash or demonize the history of the Crusades. It shows fools, villians, and flawed characters, but it also shows heroic and pious characters (such as the saintly King Louis IX). The brilliant device of using a 13th century crusader (with unexplained access to everything written about previous crusades by Christian or Mohammedan chroniclers) as the narrator adds a ring of authenticity and allows it to take, at least on the surface, a frankly and unawkwardly pro-Christian tone. What the real author's historical judgement is, whether he sympathizes with or means to mock the narrator's perspective of Faith and desire for Christianity to survive in the Holy Land, thus becomes irrelevant. Spared the prospects of either heavy-handed modernist moralizing and revisionist history or apologetics and romanticizing, we can just enjoy a rollicking good ride through an exciting period of history filled with colorful characters, gritty details, and amazing anecdotes. I only wish Ridley Scott had allowed us to have this much unpoliticized fun at the movies.
Incidentally, I've read a couple of history books on the Crusades and recognized many of the events related in this book. So, although Connell doesn't give sources or make any strong claims, I can believe Deus lo Volt!, at least in all of its main features, is basically history collected and presented in the form of an entertaining, novel-like chronical, rather than being historical fiction. If many of the asides and exotic anecdotes are fabricated, they sure are imaginative and enjoyable.

Enjoyable historical fiction.......2005-06-06

I liked it, and it kept my interest throughout. I was on a Crusades reading binge, and found this one of the more interesting books on that important two centuries of turmoil. If you like historical fiction, this is worth the read. Connell, I read somewhere, said that virtually the whole book is excerpts from translated accounts of crusaders and others of the period, so that he does not himself regard it as a volume of fiction; but it reads that way, and is quite enjoyable.

Interesting, but I prefer Agori's novel.......2003-04-12

This book relies on the traditional view of the Crusades. Too bad. The novel Defenders of the Holy Grail (with its great songs) relates more to current research and ties Jesus' family to the Crusader effort. Connell write well, but his "facts" are suspect. remember the Pope back then was whoever was strongest in Rome, and Godfrey's own uncle had been one of the Popes!! Get this, but get a copy of Defenders also.

The Canso D'Antiocha: An Occitan Epic Chronicle of the First Crusade

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The Canso D'Antiocha: An Occitan Epic Chronicle of the First Crusade
Carol Sweetenham , and Linda Paterson
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God, Humanity, and History: The Hebrew First Crusade Chronicles

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God, Humanity, and History: The Hebrew First Crusade Chronicles
Robert Chazan
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Although closely focused on the remarkable Hebrew First-Crusade narratives, Robert Chazan's new interpretation of these texts is anything but narrow, as his title, God, Humanity, and History, strongly suggests. The three surviving Hebrew accounts of the crusaders' devastating assaults on Rhineland Jewish communities during the spring of 1096 have been examined at length, but only now can we appreciate the extent to which they represent their turbulent times.
After a close analysis of the texts themselves, Chazan addresses the objectives of the three narratives. He compares these accounts with earlier Jewish history writing and with contemporary crusade historiography. It is in their disjuncture with past forms of Jewish historical narration and their amazing parallels with Latin crusade narratives that the Hebrew narratives are most revealing. We see how they reflect the embeddedness of early Ashkenazic Jewry in the vibrant atmosphere of late-eleventh- and early-twelfth-century northern Europe.

Kings & Queens of Ancient Britain: The Magnificent Chronicle Of The First Rulers Of The British Isles, From The Time Of Bouddica And King Arthur To The ... The Crusades And The Reign Of Richard III

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Kings & Queens of Ancient Britain: The Magnificent Chronicle Of The First Rulers Of The British Isles, From The Time Of Bouddica And King Arthur To The ... The Crusades And The Reign Of Richard III
John Haywood
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Britain's royal history brought to life with 200 contemporary and historical illustrations, maps, shields and comprehensive genealogical tables.

A Middle English Chronicle of the First Crusade: The Caxton Eracles (Texts and Studies in Religion)

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A smart first book!

A Middle English Chronicle of the First Crusade: The Caxton Eracles (Texts and Studies in Religion)
William
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The author responds..........2006-03-07

I thank "a reader" for his/her frank opinion of my book. I agree wholeheartedly that my Introduction failed to make clear for my audience what I inteded by publishing this text. However, I found 2 stars a bit harsh if I were to be congratulated. Therefore, allow me please to clarify here what my Introduction did not:

The main purpose of my work is to provide as comprehensive an edition as possible, so that the historian or general reader may understand the text's own history, in addition to providing a Modern English version for accessibility of the Crusader history told. There are approximately 140 pages of footnotes in Vol. 2 which clarify important historical and military considrations of the text, in addition to a groundbreaking essay discussing a new theory of Crusader campaign organization.

Thus, while admittedly lacking the expertise of a literary history (being a military historian) which I admit "a reader" makes an excellent point that I ought to have discussed the late medieval appetite for Crusader histories, there are many historically valid and unique points within my work which will be of interest to a research or student, as well as to the broader military and general readership.

My dear readers, please do not hesitate to contact me in care of the publisher should you have any questions or suggestions regarding my work. I am always anxious to learn and improve!

PRICING NOTE: While it seems expensive even to me, this cost of this book is actually cheaper than photocopying it. EMP prodcues an excellent archive-quality hand-bound book that you will find both informative and long-lasting.

Yours sincerely, Cpl Dana Cushing USMCR

worthy, but ..........2004-07-09

The editor should be congratulated for making this chronicle available to the reading public, but I'm not sure who it's really aimed at. This work is a modern English translation of a Middle English translation of a French translation of a Latin work (which is itself based in turn on other chronicles), so it is unlikely to be consulted by scholars who wish to know about the events of the First Crusade. It is of more interest as a piece of late-medieval English literature, and as an example of how there was a continuing demand for crusade literature long after the Frankish occupation of the Holy Land had ended.

A smart first book!.......2003-01-17

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This two-volume set is the first treatment of Caxton's work in over a century. It is the first-ever modern English translation of the work, providing an easily accessible translation combined with contextual and critical information.

It examines two aspects of the Eracles chronicle. First, the book illuminates the history of the text by referring to the Latin and French ancestors of Caxton's Eracles, as well as investigating Caxton's methods, abilities and motivations. Previous treatments of the chronicle are examined, correcting discrepancies and providing alternative interpretations. Second, the book investigates the history in the text by using the latest research to further contextualize and clarify the military events described. The author has developed a striking new concept of understanding the interpersonal relationships between the Crusaders, allowing the reader to perceive the inner workings of the Crusade itself.

The Eracles text, a condensed Crusader chronicle driving from William of Tyre's "A History of Deeds Done Beyond the Sea", concerns the march to and campaigning in the Holy Land, focusing on the suffering and heroism of the First Crusaders as they sought to gain glory for God and establish a Christian state in a distant and misunderstood environment. In 1481, William Caxton produced a Middle English translation of this text, which he named A Boke Intituled Eracles, or Godeffroy of Boloyne.

Dana Cushing holds a degree in Medieval Studies from the University of Toronto. She is interested in all aspects of medieval and military history, specializing in the Third Crusade. She has published articles on early Crusader genealogy and Joanna Plantagenet, Queen of Sicily. She is currently serving in the United States Marine Corps (activated reserve enlisted).

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Chronicle of the First Crusade
De Chartres Foucher
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Chronicle of the First Crusade: (Fulcheri Carnotensis Historia Hierosolymitana) (Translations and reprints from the original sources of history)
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