History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)

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Recorded history is a finely-woven magic fabric of intricate lies about events predating the sixteenth century. There is not a single piece of evidence that can be reliably and independently traced back earlier than the eleventh century. This book details events that are substantiated by hard facts and logic, and validated by new astronomical research and statistical analysis of ancient sources.

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Calculations are only as good as your numbers.......2007-08-03

Yes, we can all agree that mainstream history is nearly 100% BS due to politics, economics, ego, problems with dating techniques, and various conspiracies. Agreed. But, I've been researching the distinct possibility that human history (in terms of civilizations) are much more ancient than we've been told, so coming across this book was very interesting to me. I wondered how Fomenko could be wrong (if at all) because he is very persuasive in his presentations. Then it dawned on me. If at previous times in prehistory, due to the various catastrophies that are well documented (comets, asteroids, planetary disruptions, plasma discharge, pole reversals, etc) the Earth was in a different position in relation to the sun, different tilt on its axis, different orbit, different rotation (in terms of velocity and DIRECTION), and the continents were in different positions, then would this not cause the ancients to see the sky (constellations) differently? In other words, is Fomenko making erronious assumptions about the physics of the Earth in pre-history, which then corrupt his data with regards to dating the relevant astrology? The last event to seriously disrupt our planet occured roughly 3500 years ago, according to other good researchers, so is it possible Fomenko has been confused by this? The vastly different physics of our planet in the not so distant past may explain this confusion, which is not to say the "mainstream" version of history is correct; on the contrary. I am not an expert in these fields, but wanted to see if this idea could spark discussion.

Pants on fire?.......2007-07-19

Will people ever read before spamming? Yes, Jesuits could not rewrite world history alone, they had help. Anyway, Dr Prof Acad A.Fomenko does not point to jesuits as the driving force of world wide history manipulation in published volumes 1,2,3;, actually he barely mentions the poor devils. Check it with 'Search inside' feature, please. China is rarely mentioned either, in fact, Dr Fomenko is completely eurocentric. Right, his theory contradicts all mainstream schools of history, because in their actual state they are all built on blatantly erroneus chronology. You don't need a mysterious cabal (conspiracy) to falsify history, the falsification is its modus operandi. It is inherent to history(ians) to falsify (distort) events, as it is inherent to humans to boast as it is inherent to power (authority) to legimize itself by referrring to glorious past made to its own order. Dr Prof Fomenko and team have identified scores of instances of such manipulation in Russian, European, etc.. history, and delivered valid statistical proof thereof. His own 'reconstruction' is completely another story. Forget c14 as a valid method of dating. W.Libby has initially discovered a brilliant method of INDEPENDENT dating. Too bad, c14 method has become a joke after a forced marrige with dendrochronology with consensual chronological scale inbuilt. Radiocarbon method can't stand blind tests, but is so very productive as a rubberstamp.

Accepted History & Chronology Must Be Changed. .......2007-04-09

There is no doubt that history as most know it is a sham, & institution's version of History both University & Church is fradulent & inaccurate. Everything was established with an agenda, The real "Dark Ages" are now when we have access to incredible amounts of information past authorities & more important 'common folk' didn't have but our institutions & educators are slow to evolve because of what has ignorantly & arrogantly been taught for too long. This is on many subjects not just Chronology.

For anyone to question "Why would a Mathematician have anything credible to say of History?" The answer is from Dr. Fomenko's preface in the book: "It would be worthwhile to remind the reader that in the XVI-XVII century Chronology was considered to be a subdivision of Mathematics." These volumes could possibly be some of the most important works to date & should be read by everyone with an interest in History, especially professors & educators who have a duty to the public. I have read both books & must say that 'Chronology 1' has some very eye opening & revolutionary information. Even if these volumes are part true the implications are profound & opens the doors to further investigations & questions which must be done. I speak several different lanquages & must say the logic Dr. Fomenko uses with "inflection" of words & words being read from left to right in one region & right to left in another then written backwards, the removal of vowels & get down to basics of words, or different cities & locations having the same name etc. is correct. Vowel usage has always been optional & varied, actually complicating linquistics & study. The first thing one has to understand is that words never had a fixed spelling in history like we do now, the spelling of words was mutable & regional, as well as names & titles of people were vast, varied & changed, NOTHING WAS FIXED or understood linear. Matters of Life & Death as well as financial profiteering yesterday & today were & are made with ignorant, illogical & conspiratorial views of history & reality, it's time people get closer to the Truth & society collectively grow up.

Very Interesting.......2007-03-07

It is a good proposal and I believe it will mature into something even better in the future. I think it deserves to be read.

History as Science Fiction.......2007-01-10

Anatoly Fomenko has written a very intriguing book, full of pictures, charts, and computer 'proof' of his thesis: backwards of AD900 we don't really know what happened or when. Between AD900 and AD1600 there is more certainty, but there is still a lot of fuzzy ground, and things don't get reliable until we get past the 1600's where the printing press made it very difficult for the perpetrators of this timeline manipulation to change anything that had been committed to print. The Dark Ages did not happen. Books were burned for a reason. One organization has doubled the actual length of its existence by expanding the real chronology. Read why.

I had always wondered why Christ died about AD33 and yet men waited until the 11th century to form the Knights Templar, the Cathars, etc and go after the Holy Land by force. Why the 1000 year gap? Turns out there wasn't more than a 10-12 year gap and he proves it using astronomy. This also implies that the planet is not as old as we have been told, and current Christian and other creationist scientists are already championing that idea without being aware of Fomenko's book. The two groups, creationist scientists and the Russian mathematical analysts corroborate each other. Fascinating.

Of course, all this flies in the face of what we have been told traditionally is the 'proper' chronology of western civilization, and most readers will experience 'cognitive dissonance' in reading this book. It means that our history going backwards from AD1600 becomes progressively more incorrect and unreliable until it cannot be trusted at all... in the space of 700-800 years.

Naturally, the curious, open-minded reader will want to know WHO did this, WHY, and did any of the events we think of as really ancient ever happen?
Dr. Fomenko is a respected scientist/mathematician at Moscow State University who has already answered these questions to the satisfaction of his initially skeptical colleagues. Most of them are now believers, a few still refuse to believe (the usual diehards), and of course the western press has ignored Fomenko's work -- for obvious reasons when you read the book. The ones who perpetrated this chronology ruse have a lot to answer for. They are still with us. That's why this book is a well-kept secret.

I gave the book a 4-star rating because I was unable to check out some of his claims; those I checked were as he said. But if even 1/3 of his claims are true, this punches a big hole in what we think is our history, the meaning of western civilization, our educational process (for repeating the ruse as gospel), and the trustworthiness of the organization that perpetrated this ruse, well-intentioned or not.

This book relates to current research into a Young Earth paradigm, to John Keel's discoveries about our planet, and Fr Malachi Martin's insights (in his now out-of-print books). We are indeed sheep who are manipulated and kept ignorant -- for a reason. While knowing what these men have to say may be the "booby prize" (as in: 'what can you do with this knowledge?'), it will provide interesting reading. Didn't someone say: "...and the Truth will set you free."?? For you to judge if this book contains the truth.

Islam and Modernity: Transformation of an Intellectual Tradition (Publications of the Center for Middle Eastern Studies)

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A truly landmark contribution
Wonderfully clear writing
Islamic Intellectual History's Holy Grail
Islamic Intellectual History's Holy Grail
a scholars vision for his religion

Islam and Modernity: Transformation of an Intellectual Tradition (Publications of the Center for Middle Eastern Studies)
Fazlur Rahman
Manufacturer: University Of Chicago Press
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"As Professor Fazlur Rahman shows in the latest of a series of important contributions to Islamic intellectual history, the characteristic problems of the Muslim modernists—the adaptation to the needs of the contemporary situation of a holy book which draws its specific examples from the conditions of the seventh century and earlier—are by no means new. . . . In Professor Rahman's view the intellectual and therefore the social development of Islam has been impeded and distorted by two interrelated errors. The first was committed by those who, in reading the Koran, failed to recognize the differences between general principles and specific responses to 'concrete and particular historical situations.' . . . This very rigidity gave rise to the second major error, that of the secularists. By teaching and interpreting the Koran in such a way as to admit of no change or development, the dogmatists had created a situation in which Muslim societies, faced with the imperative need to educate their people for life in the modern world, were forced to make a painful and self-defeating choice—either to abandon Koranic Islam, or to turn their backs on the modern world."—Bernard Lewis, New York Review of Books

"In this work, Professor Fazlur Rahman presents a positively ambitious blueprint for the transformation of the intellectual tradition of Islam: theology, ethics, philosophy and jurisprudence. Over the voices advocating a return to Islam or the reestablishment of the Sharia, the guide for action, he astutely and soberly asks: What and which Islam? More importantly, how does one get to 'normative' Islam? The author counsels, and passionately demonstrates, that for Islam to be actually what Muslims claim it to be—comprehensive in scope and efficacious for every age and place—Muslim scholars and educationists must reevaluate their methodology and hermeneutics. In spelling out the necessary and sound methodology, he is at once courageous, serious and profound."—Wadi Z. Haddad, American-Arab Affairs

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A truly landmark contribution.......2007-10-04

This book was inspirational and a real breakthrough in my understanding and relationship with my faith. It was the first occasion that an orthodox scholar refused to close the gates of inquiry, and maintains that Islam mandate these gates remain open allowing in questions and solutions sensitive to particular societies; it claims that the Quran requires particularity and not immanence in realising what is a Muslim way of life and refuses to yield to the sheer weight of orthodoxy. Fazlur Rahman is brave and determined not to let the ideologues, the obedience automatons from hijacking the wonderful Message. This is despite the fact that one may critique his theory in Chapter One (also included in Kauzmann's Liberal Islam anthology); his other book 'Islam' is also an inspiring read.

Wonderfully clear writing.......2005-06-25

Here's a sample of the book's prose. After describing the challenge to some traditional Islamic tenets posed by Izz al-Din Ibn Abd al-Salam al-Sulami, and others, Fazlur Rahman writes "But orthodoxy had developed an amazing shock-absorbing capacity: all these thinkers were held in high esteem by orthodox circles as great representatives of Islam, but such statements of theirs as had radical import were invariably dismissed as 'isolated' (shadhdh) or idiosyncratic and were quietly buried. It took real rebels like Ibn Taymiya to make any perceptible dent in this stieel wall of ijma (consensus.)"

I love it. We get a sense of the orthodoxy-preserving process he's describing in visual and tactile terms, and we're drawn in to the "buried" views that it is some part of his goal to resurrect here.

Islamic Intellectual History's Holy Grail.......2003-08-03

Arguably the greatest Arab-American intellect of the 20th Century, the late Fazlur Rahman's writings are essential readings for the Near East scholar, whether novice or PhD Candidate. No scholar can establish more authority in his or her field of study than did Rahman, which he accomplished through his neverending criticism of Orientalist tendencies. In essence, he breathed back into Islam the very life that the Western Orientalist saps out of it.

As for the book itself, it is a critique of Islamic education, i.e., Islamic Intellectualism. For Rahman, a genuine understanding of Qur'anic weltaunschunng was misconstrued, in effect overlooked by early Muslim thinkers, whose pupils were forced consequently to pay a tremendous price: when Medeival Muslim hakmit (philosophy) attempted to apply an Islamic veneer onto its clearly Hellenized rational interpretation of theology, Islamic Orthodoxy crushed it "by its sheer weight." Hence the historically truncated hakmit found only in Sufi and Shi'ite schools. Ironically, the orthodoxy did not have a handle on the Qur'anic weltanshunng either: as orthodox scholars developed Islamic jurisprudence and theological doctrine their atomic focus on individual suras outside of the situational context necessary for proper deduction, they too missed the point. Thereby eliminating the once rich intellectual heritage's future of organic and original thought. Tied to Islam's clash with the West and ostensible Modernity, maintaining an appologetic Islamic veneer to justify Western and Modern currents is ultimately self-defeating. Unless the on-going peripheral struggle to restore an organic, genuine understanding of the Qur'an succeeds, this situation will unfortunately continue to increase in the post-colonial world. Affectively leaving Islam as a candle burning at both ends.

I recommend this book along with Edward Said's various writings on East/West discourse for anyone interested in present-day intellectual dialogue within Islamic societies. As for an excellent introduction to Islamic Intellectual History, try Rahman's book titled "Islam", inshah Allah. (If new to the Middle East, please keep one thing in mind: Would you read the Holy Bible or see a shakesperean play, in order to understand contemporary Western European and American culture? Well, on one hand Said has a point with this annalogy, yet Rahman makes good arguement otherwise. You decide.)

Equally important is one's handle on aesthetic hermeneutics, particularly the debate between Theodore Adorno and Hans Georg Gadamer, to whom Rahman openly rejects late in his book's Introduction--art must inherently convey Truth for Islam's claims to have validity.

Islamic Intellectual History's Holy Grail.......2003-08-03

a scholars vision for his religion.......2001-11-26

This small work is essential reading for understanding Islam. The previous review suffices, but I just wanted to add a note about the work's content. During my first reading, I thought that the work was overly bogged down with a discussion of education and its development throughout Pakistan, Turkey, etc. However, upon a second reading, I found this to be the most profound and impactful section of the work, as this is the locus of the true reform of Islam and its true modernization will occur. Thus, this work is partly a late scholar's dream for the future of his religion. Though at the same time, it is deeply grounded in history and its realities.

The Fatimids and Their Traditions of Learning: Volume 2 (Ismaili Heritage)

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Great history and organizational structure of the empire

The Fatimids and Their Traditions of Learning: Volume 2 (Ismaili Heritage)
Heinz Halm
Manufacturer: I. B. Tauris
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ASIN: 1860643132

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The Fatimid period was the golden age of Ismaili thought and literature, when Shi'ite Ismaili Imams ruled over the vast areas of the Muslim world and made important contributions to Islamic civilization. Heinz Halm investigates from a historical perspective the intellectual traditions that developed among the Ismailis from the rise of the Fatimid state in North Africa to the cultural brilliance of what he calls "one of the great eras in Egyptian history and in Islamic history in general." He covers the training of the Ismaili dais or missionaries, the establishment of academic institutions such as al-Azhar and the Dar al-'Ilm (House of Knowledge) through which the Fatimids encouraged learning, and the special "sessions of wisdom" for advanced instruction.

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Great history and organizational structure of the empire.......2001-01-22

This book clearly describes many of the organizational structures within the fatimid emprire. Furthermore, it gives a good account of the empire from start to finish.

Abdullah Ahmad Badawi: Revivalist of an Intellectual Tradition

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Abdullah Ahmad Badawi: Revivalist of an Intellectual Tradition
Syed Ali Tawfik Al-attas , Ng Tieh Chuan , Ali Tawfik Al-attas , and Tieh Chuan Ng
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ASIN: 967978911X

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This book not only attempts to trace the ancestral roots of Malaysia's fifth Prime Minister, it aims to elucidate the more esoteric ideas couched in the latter's now famous poetic composition, "In Search of Everlasting Peace." In addition, this study represents a critical albeit preliminary examination of the phrase 'Islam hadhari' cast in the framework of the worldview of Islam. It is a philosophical, intellectual understanding of the approach contrary to what the current information suggests.

To date there have been no complete adequate understanding of the phrase. Apart from being the only adequate scholarly work dealing with this approach, it will also be one of the first renderings of the approach into English which simultaneously attempts to weave Abdullah's beautifully penned poetic composition with the need for a sagacious comprehension of the modern contemporary world.

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Although many Westerners claim human rights as a major achievement of Western civilization, Muslims argue just as sincerely that human rights are central to Islam. They argue as well that the West's rhetorical emphasis on human rights cannot hide the fact that within Western society basic human rights are violated every day.
Through the use of extensive research and interview material from Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco, Kevin Dwyer explores what human rights mean to Middle Eastern men and women--lawyers, political militants, religious thinkers, journalists, and human rights activists. The debate ranges widely from the nature of human freedom and human rights organizations to the role of religion in Arab and national identity. The reader gains a strong sense of the complexity and vitality of life in the Middle East today and of the kinds of issues that are at the center of informed discussion there.
From the book:"Human rights may be something new for the West, but we in Islam have had it since the beginning. We have no differences between whites, blacks, Jews, Muslims--everyone is free. We never persecuted the Jews here the way they did in France and England. In England and in the US you fight against the blacks--why just the other day there were news items about fighting between the police and blacks in London."--Muhammad Mekki Naciri, member of Morocco's Council of Religious Scholars

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Intellectual Traditions in Islam

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ASIN: 186064760X

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This work explores the role of the intellect in the legal, theological, philosophical, and mystical traditions of Islam, and its continuing relevance in the efforts of the contemporary Muslim world to address the challenges of modernity. Leading scholars who have included chapters--all originally written for this book--include Mohammad Arkoun, Norman Calder, John Cooper, Muhsin Mahdi, Abdulaziz Sachedina, Annemarie Schimmel, and others.

Iran: Between Tradition and Modernity (Global Encounters)

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In the name of Iran

Iran: Between Tradition and Modernity (Global Encounters)
Ramin Jahanbegloo
Manufacturer: Lexington Books
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ASIN: 0739105299

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The Iranian Revolution represented to intellectuals and professionals the potential of spiritual values to triumph over the great power of economic imperialism. Yet out of this revolution has emerged an identity crisis that touches Islamic ideological heights and reaches down to the very ground of Islamic practice. The contributors to this collection, experts on Iranian cultural and political history, analyze the fragmented self of today's Iranian, refracted through that country's institutions, market forces, and modern thought. Each essay both deepens our understanding of contemporary Iran and adds to the broader discussion of the relationship between Islam and the West.

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In the name of Iran.......2007-03-21

This book contains several essays of Iranian thinkers. This book is prasing the Islamic Republic of Iran as a modern state which is altering itself in order to suite itself to changing world. However, and infact, Dr. Ramin JAHNABEGLOO is before the IRI court for espionage charges.

Title of this book should be delusional thinkers of Iran.

The Islamic Intellectual Tradition in Persia

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The Islamic Intellectual Tradition in Persia
Mehd Aminrazavi
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Muslim-jewish Encounters: Intellectual Traditions And Modern Politics (STUDIES IN MUSLIM-JEWISH RELATIONS)

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A deeper than most understanding

Muslim-jewish Encounters: Intellectual Traditions And Modern Politics (STUDIES IN MUSLIM-JEWISH RELATIONS)
Ronald Nettler
Manufacturer: Harwood Academic Publishers
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The great changes in the Islamic Middle East during the nineteenth and twentieth centuries have deeply affected the Jews of that region and their relations with the Muslim majority. One result of these was the development of a vast Islamic literature on the Jews and Judaism written against the background of changing social and political climates. On the Jewish side as well, new intellectual and literary tendencies concerning Islam and the Arabs emerged.
Muslim-Jewish Encounters brings together contributions which examine various Islamic and selected Jewish writings of this nature, analysing their ideas, methods, sources, and meanings while relating them to new historical and political societies as well as to ancient and medieval writings for comparative purposes. The contributions are based on primary sources representing significant contributions to religious and intellectual trends within the two traditions.

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A deeper than most understanding.......2006-03-16

Nettler is a first- rate scholar and his understanding of the complex relation between Jews and Arabs is deeper than most.

Reclaiming the Islamic Intellectual Tradition: Islamic Texts Society and its Publications.(Muslim Institutions): An article from: Islam & Science

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Reclaiming the Islamic Intellectual Tradition: Islamic Texts Society and its Publications.(Muslim Institutions): An article from: Islam & Science
Elma Ruth Harder
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Title: Reclaiming the Islamic Intellectual Tradition: Islamic Texts Society and its Publications.(Muslim Institutions)
Author: Elma Ruth Harder
Publication: Islam & Science (Refereed)
Date: December 22, 2004
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Volume: 2 Issue: 2 Page: 203(6)

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