History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
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History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
Anatoly Fomenko
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Recorded history is a finely-woven magic fabric of intricate lies about events predating the sixteenth century. There is not a single piece of evidence that can be reliably and independently traced back earlier than the eleventh century. This book details events that are substantiated by hard facts and logic, and validated by new astronomical research and statistical analysis of ancient sources.

Customer Reviews:

3 out of 5 stars Calculations are only as good as your numbers.......2007-08-03

Yes, we can all agree that mainstream history is nearly 100% BS due to politics, economics, ego, problems with dating techniques, and various conspiracies. Agreed. But, I've been researching the distinct possibility that human history (in terms of civilizations) are much more ancient than we've been told, so coming across this book was very interesting to me. I wondered how Fomenko could be wrong (if at all) because he is very persuasive in his presentations. Then it dawned on me. If at previous times in prehistory, due to the various catastrophies that are well documented (comets, asteroids, planetary disruptions, plasma discharge, pole reversals, etc) the Earth was in a different position in relation to the sun, different tilt on its axis, different orbit, different rotation (in terms of velocity and DIRECTION), and the continents were in different positions, then would this not cause the ancients to see the sky (constellations) differently? In other words, is Fomenko making erronious assumptions about the physics of the Earth in pre-history, which then corrupt his data with regards to dating the relevant astrology? The last event to seriously disrupt our planet occured roughly 3500 years ago, according to other good researchers, so is it possible Fomenko has been confused by this? The vastly different physics of our planet in the not so distant past may explain this confusion, which is not to say the "mainstream" version of history is correct; on the contrary. I am not an expert in these fields, but wanted to see if this idea could spark discussion.

5 out of 5 stars Pants on fire?.......2007-07-19

Will people ever read before spamming? Yes, Jesuits could not rewrite world history alone, they had help. Anyway, Dr Prof Acad A.Fomenko does not point to jesuits as the driving force of world wide history manipulation in published volumes 1,2,3;, actually he barely mentions the poor devils. Check it with 'Search inside' feature, please. China is rarely mentioned either, in fact, Dr Fomenko is completely eurocentric. Right, his theory contradicts all mainstream schools of history, because in their actual state they are all built on blatantly erroneus chronology. You don't need a mysterious cabal (conspiracy) to falsify history, the falsification is its modus operandi. It is inherent to history(ians) to falsify (distort) events, as it is inherent to humans to boast as it is inherent to power (authority) to legimize itself by referrring to glorious past made to its own order. Dr Prof Fomenko and team have identified scores of instances of such manipulation in Russian, European, etc.. history, and delivered valid statistical proof thereof. His own 'reconstruction' is completely another story. Forget c14 as a valid method of dating. W.Libby has initially discovered a brilliant method of INDEPENDENT dating. Too bad, c14 method has become a joke after a forced marrige with dendrochronology with consensual chronological scale inbuilt. Radiocarbon method can't stand blind tests, but is so very productive as a rubberstamp.

5 out of 5 stars Accepted History & Chronology Must Be Changed. .......2007-04-09

There is no doubt that history as most know it is a sham, & institution's version of History both University & Church is fradulent & inaccurate. Everything was established with an agenda, The real "Dark Ages" are now when we have access to incredible amounts of information past authorities & more important 'common folk' didn't have but our institutions & educators are slow to evolve because of what has ignorantly & arrogantly been taught for too long. This is on many subjects not just Chronology.

For anyone to question "Why would a Mathematician have anything credible to say of History?" The answer is from Dr. Fomenko's preface in the book: "It would be worthwhile to remind the reader that in the XVI-XVII century Chronology was considered to be a subdivision of Mathematics." These volumes could possibly be some of the most important works to date & should be read by everyone with an interest in History, especially professors & educators who have a duty to the public. I have read both books & must say that 'Chronology 1' has some very eye opening & revolutionary information. Even if these volumes are part true the implications are profound & opens the doors to further investigations & questions which must be done. I speak several different lanquages & must say the logic Dr. Fomenko uses with "inflection" of words & words being read from left to right in one region & right to left in another then written backwards, the removal of vowels & get down to basics of words, or different cities & locations having the same name etc. is correct. Vowel usage has always been optional & varied, actually complicating linquistics & study. The first thing one has to understand is that words never had a fixed spelling in history like we do now, the spelling of words was mutable & regional, as well as names & titles of people were vast, varied & changed, NOTHING WAS FIXED or understood linear. Matters of Life & Death as well as financial profiteering yesterday & today were & are made with ignorant, illogical & conspiratorial views of history & reality, it's time people get closer to the Truth & society collectively grow up.

5 out of 5 stars Very Interesting.......2007-03-07

It is a good proposal and I believe it will mature into something even better in the future. I think it deserves to be read.

4 out of 5 stars History as Science Fiction.......2007-01-10

Anatoly Fomenko has written a very intriguing book, full of pictures, charts, and computer 'proof' of his thesis: backwards of AD900 we don't really know what happened or when. Between AD900 and AD1600 there is more certainty, but there is still a lot of fuzzy ground, and things don't get reliable until we get past the 1600's where the printing press made it very difficult for the perpetrators of this timeline manipulation to change anything that had been committed to print. The Dark Ages did not happen. Books were burned for a reason. One organization has doubled the actual length of its existence by expanding the real chronology. Read why.

I had always wondered why Christ died about AD33 and yet men waited until the 11th century to form the Knights Templar, the Cathars, etc and go after the Holy Land by force. Why the 1000 year gap? Turns out there wasn't more than a 10-12 year gap and he proves it using astronomy. This also implies that the planet is not as old as we have been told, and current Christian and other creationist scientists are already championing that idea without being aware of Fomenko's book. The two groups, creationist scientists and the Russian mathematical analysts corroborate each other. Fascinating.

Of course, all this flies in the face of what we have been told traditionally is the 'proper' chronology of western civilization, and most readers will experience 'cognitive dissonance' in reading this book. It means that our history going backwards from AD1600 becomes progressively more incorrect and unreliable until it cannot be trusted at all... in the space of 700-800 years.

Naturally, the curious, open-minded reader will want to know WHO did this, WHY, and did any of the events we think of as really ancient ever happen?
Dr. Fomenko is a respected scientist/mathematician at Moscow State University who has already answered these questions to the satisfaction of his initially skeptical colleagues. Most of them are now believers, a few still refuse to believe (the usual diehards), and of course the western press has ignored Fomenko's work -- for obvious reasons when you read the book. The ones who perpetrated this chronology ruse have a lot to answer for. They are still with us. That's why this book is a well-kept secret.

I gave the book a 4-star rating because I was unable to check out some of his claims; those I checked were as he said. But if even 1/3 of his claims are true, this punches a big hole in what we think is our history, the meaning of western civilization, our educational process (for repeating the ruse as gospel), and the trustworthiness of the organization that perpetrated this ruse, well-intentioned or not.

This book relates to current research into a Young Earth paradigm, to John Keel's discoveries about our planet, and Fr Malachi Martin's insights (in his now out-of-print books). We are indeed sheep who are manipulated and kept ignorant -- for a reason. While knowing what these men have to say may be the "booby prize" (as in: 'what can you do with this knowledge?'), it will provide interesting reading. Didn't someone say: "...and the Truth will set you free."?? For you to judge if this book contains the truth.
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      Mirrors of Destruction: War, Genocide, and Modern Identity
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      3 out of 5 stars Eccentric, worth three a half stars........2000-10-30

      This is a somewhat eccentric book. Bartov's most famous book, "Hitler's Army," was a devastating emprical study of the complicity of the German Army in Hitler's crimes. This is a somewhat more theoretical work, and its weaknesses show. Much of it is construed from essays Bartov has written over the past few years. The first chapter "Fields of Glory" deals essentially with Germany's path to the war and its subsequent self-pity. The second chapter, "Grand Illusions," does the same for France, while the third "Elusive Enemies," deals with elusive enemies as an element in the rise of Nazism. The fourth deals with "apocalyptic visions," which argues that the persistence of utopia and apocalypse was also crucial to the existence of modern genocide. A conclusion deals with the German novelist Bernhard Schlink's "The Reader" and a partial defnse of Binjamin Wilkomirski's controversial and probably fraudulent "Fragments."

      As the sum of these parts "Mirrors of Destruction," leave much to be desired. It is somewhat repetitive, (parts of chapters one and two are recapitulated in chapter three), and more important it is often abstract and vague. Although it has excellent footnotes, with exhaustive references to the recent literature (oddly enough, only Peter Novick's The Holocaust in American Life, is missing) it is not clear that the books assist Bartov's argument. As an example, in chapter three Bartov seeks to discuss the utopian impulse, and discusses such phenomenon as nostalgia of the past, the expansion of European influence, imperialism, Darwinism, the inherently totalitarian nature of gardening (I'm only slightly joking--see page 151), apocalyptic thought, Soviet totalitarianism, population control, capitalist overconfidence, the mass media and the rise of musuems, colonial cruelty, modern warfare, the crisis in modern historiography, scientic rationality and many others. The main problem with this list is that it dilutes the concept of utopia and apocalypse to something so ubiquitous, that it has no more explanatory power than the weather. There are many questionable comments, such as on page 149 that "universal utopia assumes the ultimate eradication of boundaries, between sexes or races, classes or faiths, the present and the future." Now aside from the many utopian impulses who had no interest in doing any of those things, and confining ourselves to the Nazis who are the subject of this book, it is clear that they wished to reinforce boundaries between sexes, and their interest in removing class boundaries was substantly less in simply redefining them out of existence.

      At one point Bartov argues that the special agony of the Holocaust is that most of the perpetrators got off very lightly, while the survivors suffered from guilt over their "good fortune." But clearly this does not distinguish the Holocaust from a large number of atrocities which have been inadequately dealt with. And survivors will feel guilty even after natural disasters where humanity could not be held responsible. There is at times a certain sententiousness in Bartov's work, such as that which lead Peter Novick to comment that "The problem with most of these lessons is not that they're wrong but that they're empty, and not very useful." "...what--short of moving to the woods--does one do with the `lesson' that the Holocaust is emblematic of modernity?" Likewise Bartov's account of German and French reactions to the Holocaust are not helped by his abstract and theoretical account. Although Bartov offers qualifications, he also speaks of "the Germans," and "the French" and speaks of complicity in such a way that the distinctions between anti-semitic thought and anti-semitic deed are conflated, as is anti-semitism and learning German and publishing under Vichy. There are risks about such a promiscuous notion of complicity: it could encourage an Anglo-American sense of superiority to the European continent. Such reflections on evil has encouraged fatuous Christian apologists of the ilk of C.S. Lewis that 6 million Jews died so to vindicate the Christian doctrime of original sin. Like most discussions of the horrors of the Twentieth century, Bartov does not really discuss the cruelties of the Showa Dictatorship (it gets a paragraph on page 138). This I believe is a mistake: Japan is not a minor country, Asia is not a minor continent, certainly not this century, and the millions of deaths attributable to the armies of the Rising Sun should not be ignored simply because their evil did not have the purity of essence of the Nazi or Armenian genocides.

      What does give this book an importance larger than these flaws comes from Bartov's discussion of Israel's own tortured reaction to the Holocaust. Instead of the account of France's failure to confront Vichy, which has become almost commonplace in the last two decades, we meet interesting accounts of Hannah Arendt, Raul Hilberg, Tzvetan Todorov, Wolfgang Sofsky, and Christopher Browning. At the end of the fourth chapter we find a long discussion of the Israel writer Ka-Tzetnik. Ka-Tzetnik is a juvenile writer, pornographic, mentally disturbed. Yet his account provides a special knowledge of the atrocity not provided by any other writer. More so than much discussion, Bartov's discussion gives at least a partial truth to his statement "that when we look in the mirror of the Holocaust, we see our own reflection."
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              5 out of 5 stars insightful, incisive, and entertaining.......2000-03-18

              Authors Perry and Ironside cut through the complexities of Israeli society to offer a clear and perceptive analysis of how Israel's past has shaped its present, a present in which deep, disturbing social divisions are coming to a boil. The starkness of these divisions emerges as the authors ask probing questions of Israelis occupying various positions on the Israeli political and social spectrum - Arab and Jew, secular and religious - and deftly weave their interviews, as well as memoir, together with their analysis. The authors' journalistic talents and experience are evident throughout the book, which reads like a good travel narrative. While the reader will feel like he has been taken on an entertaining journey, he will also take away a clear understanding of the extreme positions being staked out among Israel's people, positions that may tear the nation apart and leave some groups disenfranchised, unless Israelis can find a way to renegotiate the delicate balancing act that has kept Israel's quest for permanence alive for the past 50 years.
              Jewish Identity in Early Modern Germany
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                Jewish Identity in Early Modern Germany
                Dean Phillip Bell
                Manufacturer: Ashgate Pub Co
                ProductGroup: Book
                Binding: Hardcover

                GeneralGeneral | Europe | History | Subjects | Books
                GeneralGeneral | Germany | Europe | History | Subjects | Books
                GeneralGeneral | Jewish | World | History | Subjects | Books
                GeneralGeneral | World | History | Subjects | Books
                ASIN: 075465897X

                Books:

                1. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
                2. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
                3. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
                4. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
                5. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
                6. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
                7. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
                8. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
                9. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)
                10. History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)

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