History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)

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Recorded history is a finely-woven magic fabric of intricate lies about events predating the sixteenth century. There is not a single piece of evidence that can be reliably and independently traced back earlier than the eleventh century. This book details events that are substantiated by hard facts and logic, and validated by new astronomical research and statistical analysis of ancient sources.

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Calculations are only as good as your numbers.......2007-08-03

Yes, we can all agree that mainstream history is nearly 100% BS due to politics, economics, ego, problems with dating techniques, and various conspiracies. Agreed. But, I've been researching the distinct possibility that human history (in terms of civilizations) are much more ancient than we've been told, so coming across this book was very interesting to me. I wondered how Fomenko could be wrong (if at all) because he is very persuasive in his presentations. Then it dawned on me. If at previous times in prehistory, due to the various catastrophies that are well documented (comets, asteroids, planetary disruptions, plasma discharge, pole reversals, etc) the Earth was in a different position in relation to the sun, different tilt on its axis, different orbit, different rotation (in terms of velocity and DIRECTION), and the continents were in different positions, then would this not cause the ancients to see the sky (constellations) differently? In other words, is Fomenko making erronious assumptions about the physics of the Earth in pre-history, which then corrupt his data with regards to dating the relevant astrology? The last event to seriously disrupt our planet occured roughly 3500 years ago, according to other good researchers, so is it possible Fomenko has been confused by this? The vastly different physics of our planet in the not so distant past may explain this confusion, which is not to say the "mainstream" version of history is correct; on the contrary. I am not an expert in these fields, but wanted to see if this idea could spark discussion.

Pants on fire?.......2007-07-19

Will people ever read before spamming? Yes, Jesuits could not rewrite world history alone, they had help. Anyway, Dr Prof Acad A.Fomenko does not point to jesuits as the driving force of world wide history manipulation in published volumes 1,2,3;, actually he barely mentions the poor devils. Check it with 'Search inside' feature, please. China is rarely mentioned either, in fact, Dr Fomenko is completely eurocentric. Right, his theory contradicts all mainstream schools of history, because in their actual state they are all built on blatantly erroneus chronology. You don't need a mysterious cabal (conspiracy) to falsify history, the falsification is its modus operandi. It is inherent to history(ians) to falsify (distort) events, as it is inherent to humans to boast as it is inherent to power (authority) to legimize itself by referrring to glorious past made to its own order. Dr Prof Fomenko and team have identified scores of instances of such manipulation in Russian, European, etc.. history, and delivered valid statistical proof thereof. His own 'reconstruction' is completely another story. Forget c14 as a valid method of dating. W.Libby has initially discovered a brilliant method of INDEPENDENT dating. Too bad, c14 method has become a joke after a forced marrige with dendrochronology with consensual chronological scale inbuilt. Radiocarbon method can't stand blind tests, but is so very productive as a rubberstamp.

Accepted History & Chronology Must Be Changed. .......2007-04-09

There is no doubt that history as most know it is a sham, & institution's version of History both University & Church is fradulent & inaccurate. Everything was established with an agenda, The real "Dark Ages" are now when we have access to incredible amounts of information past authorities & more important 'common folk' didn't have but our institutions & educators are slow to evolve because of what has ignorantly & arrogantly been taught for too long. This is on many subjects not just Chronology.

For anyone to question "Why would a Mathematician have anything credible to say of History?" The answer is from Dr. Fomenko's preface in the book: "It would be worthwhile to remind the reader that in the XVI-XVII century Chronology was considered to be a subdivision of Mathematics." These volumes could possibly be some of the most important works to date & should be read by everyone with an interest in History, especially professors & educators who have a duty to the public. I have read both books & must say that 'Chronology 1' has some very eye opening & revolutionary information. Even if these volumes are part true the implications are profound & opens the doors to further investigations & questions which must be done. I speak several different lanquages & must say the logic Dr. Fomenko uses with "inflection" of words & words being read from left to right in one region & right to left in another then written backwards, the removal of vowels & get down to basics of words, or different cities & locations having the same name etc. is correct. Vowel usage has always been optional & varied, actually complicating linquistics & study. The first thing one has to understand is that words never had a fixed spelling in history like we do now, the spelling of words was mutable & regional, as well as names & titles of people were vast, varied & changed, NOTHING WAS FIXED or understood linear. Matters of Life & Death as well as financial profiteering yesterday & today were & are made with ignorant, illogical & conspiratorial views of history & reality, it's time people get closer to the Truth & society collectively grow up.

Very Interesting.......2007-03-07

It is a good proposal and I believe it will mature into something even better in the future. I think it deserves to be read.

History as Science Fiction.......2007-01-10

Anatoly Fomenko has written a very intriguing book, full of pictures, charts, and computer 'proof' of his thesis: backwards of AD900 we don't really know what happened or when. Between AD900 and AD1600 there is more certainty, but there is still a lot of fuzzy ground, and things don't get reliable until we get past the 1600's where the printing press made it very difficult for the perpetrators of this timeline manipulation to change anything that had been committed to print. The Dark Ages did not happen. Books were burned for a reason. One organization has doubled the actual length of its existence by expanding the real chronology. Read why.

I had always wondered why Christ died about AD33 and yet men waited until the 11th century to form the Knights Templar, the Cathars, etc and go after the Holy Land by force. Why the 1000 year gap? Turns out there wasn't more than a 10-12 year gap and he proves it using astronomy. This also implies that the planet is not as old as we have been told, and current Christian and other creationist scientists are already championing that idea without being aware of Fomenko's book. The two groups, creationist scientists and the Russian mathematical analysts corroborate each other. Fascinating.

Of course, all this flies in the face of what we have been told traditionally is the 'proper' chronology of western civilization, and most readers will experience 'cognitive dissonance' in reading this book. It means that our history going backwards from AD1600 becomes progressively more incorrect and unreliable until it cannot be trusted at all... in the space of 700-800 years.

Naturally, the curious, open-minded reader will want to know WHO did this, WHY, and did any of the events we think of as really ancient ever happen?
Dr. Fomenko is a respected scientist/mathematician at Moscow State University who has already answered these questions to the satisfaction of his initially skeptical colleagues. Most of them are now believers, a few still refuse to believe (the usual diehards), and of course the western press has ignored Fomenko's work -- for obvious reasons when you read the book. The ones who perpetrated this chronology ruse have a lot to answer for. They are still with us. That's why this book is a well-kept secret.

I gave the book a 4-star rating because I was unable to check out some of his claims; those I checked were as he said. But if even 1/3 of his claims are true, this punches a big hole in what we think is our history, the meaning of western civilization, our educational process (for repeating the ruse as gospel), and the trustworthiness of the organization that perpetrated this ruse, well-intentioned or not.

This book relates to current research into a Young Earth paradigm, to John Keel's discoveries about our planet, and Fr Malachi Martin's insights (in his now out-of-print books). We are indeed sheep who are manipulated and kept ignorant -- for a reason. While knowing what these men have to say may be the "booby prize" (as in: 'what can you do with this knowledge?'), it will provide interesting reading. Didn't someone say: "...and the Truth will set you free."?? For you to judge if this book contains the truth.

Cosmic Trigger I : Final Secret of the Illuminati (Cosmic Trigger)

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Far out...
Not Free SF Reader
Final Secrets
Reality tunnel changer
Wow! Some People Really Don't Get It...

Cosmic Trigger I : Final Secret of the Illuminati (Cosmic Trigger)
Robert A. Wilson
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Far out..........2007-09-21

Yes, "far out" are the first and last words that come to my head when I think of this most unique experience of a book.

It's one of my favorite books as I am at a complete loss to classify it. More books should defy categorization like this does. Other reviews will give you details of what it contains.

I'm just going to express my awe at the facility with which Robert Anton Wilson can jump from one subject to another and still consistently hold my interest.

Not Free SF Reader.......2007-09-03

Robert Anton Wilson is a very strange man. Here he writes about all
sorts of things, conspiracies, magic, the occult, weird happenings and
how lots of things like this tie together and are meaningful. The other
funny thing is the whole numerology bit, where the number twenty-three
is seen as being very important, and turns up in all sorts of places.

Final Secrets.......2007-04-04

"Cosmic Trigger" is worth reading both for its historical value and its relevance today. Many of the important figures of the 60's and 70's, like Tim Leary, J Edgar Hoover and Robert A Wilson, are dead and gone, but the problems they represented are still with us. Permit me to quote one paragraph:

"Paul Watzlavik, among others, has performed classic experiments in which totally sane people will begin to behave with all the irrationality of hospitalized paranoids or schizophrenics - just because they have been lied to in a calculated and systematic way. This sort of 'disinformation' matrix is so typical of many aspects of our society (e.g. advertizing and organized religion, as well as government) that some psychiatrists, such as R.D. Laing, claim it is the principal cause of psychotic breakdowns. When the politics of lying becomes normal, paranoia and alienation become the 'normality' of the day. The government, as the principal liar of the 1960's, was, of course, more deluded than anyone else, since its reality-map had become a classic disinformation system. The establishment began looking around for the villains to blame for the escalating social disintegration. Tim Leary got elected, by unanimous acclaim, Villain #1."

Nominations are now open for Villain #1 of this decade. Osama seems to be leading.

Reality tunnel changer.......2007-03-16

After reading this book, I tuned in another reality tunnel (you'll understand what I meant after reading the book).

What can I say, I recommend this book to ultimate freedom seekers and the ones(probably the same people) that enjoyed Carlos Castaneda series( especially Journey to Ixtlan).

Great writing, great man, great insight. I'd have to write a book just as a review for this one so I'll stop here :-)

Wow! Some People Really Don't Get It..........2007-02-04

I was amazed at several of the reviews here which give this book a low rating. They say it was "unreadable", "silly" "garbage" and other such put-downs, just because they were unable to comprehend it. This book has so many levels to it that many people WON'T get it (unfortunately) but just because quantum equations look like a bunch of scribbles to me, I don't go around referring to quantum physics as "silly" "garbage".

This is one of the best books on ontology and the nature of reality for the layman which has ever been written (or at least in the top ten). Please keep in mind, all who would criticise, that just because you yourself were not properly equipped to understand and enjoy this volume, that does not make it drivel. R.A.W., one of the best, at his best.

Rest in peace Mr. Wilson....

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Not Free SF Reader
An engrossing occult mystery
Don't waste your time.............
2 Hunchbacks, Followed by 7 Soldiers, Followed by 20 Hunchbacks!
had me in a cold sweat

Masks of the Illuminati
Robert A. Wilson
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Not Free SF Reader.......2007-09-03

For Robert Anton Wilson, this book is a little more straightforward. A
distant relative of Habard Celine encounters yet another conspiracy. I
know, that is a real shocker in an Illuminati book, not. One of those
'chance meetings in a tavern, now we have a fantasy adventure' type
scenarios occur.

The interesting thing is that our conspiratorial protagonist
encounters Albert Einstein and James Joyce, and they attempt to put
their intellects to the task of working out what is going on.

An engrossing occult mystery.......2007-01-12

Having read both Illiminatus! and Schrödinger's Cat, I had to get my hands on Masks Of The Illuminati. I will mention that I do consider Robert Anton Wilson to be my favorite writer, so I may have just a twinge of bias for his work, but anyone who reads his work will understand that he's definitely not your average writer, and you have to be prepared to follow "Mad Bob" wherever he leads you, even into "chappel perilous" itself! He has a way of bringing the reader into his stories, like a fly on the wall, weaving you in and out of waking "reality" and dreamscapes - the reader is never sure what is really going on most of the time...

If you know your Crowley, you may be slightly disappointed, because you will have already uncovered part of the mystery. I will say no more, because I don't want to spoil anything.

Score one for the master, R.A.W.

Don't waste your time....................2006-08-22

......because I did! I do like R.A.W., and I feel that he is right on the mark with many things he says. But, my God, if I could only get the time I spent reading this book back. There was one truly engrossing and suspenseful moment of the book when a guy (nope, can't remember his name) was on the phone with another guy (nope, can't remember his name either) pleading with him to get to his home, because creatures from Hell were trying to get in his house. The twist at the end was disappointing, and the process by which the author was trying to build to the climax was irritating.

2 Hunchbacks, Followed by 7 Soldiers, Followed by 20 Hunchbacks! .......2006-02-13

You'll have to read the book to understand the title for this review.

This book started off in a rather puzzling way. I had a tough time getting into the book, until it got to the heart of the story. Overall, Einstein and Joyce untangle a rather perplexing mystery, with rather terrestial reasoning. It was a mystery that was unraveled in a rather clever, and interesting way.

The final 30 pages, however, have to be read to believed.

Honestly, I don't really know how I feel about this book. I liked most of it, but the ending left a rather bad taste in my mouth. Really it just comes off as useless jibberish, and its inclusion in this novel went way over this reader's head.

had me in a cold sweat.......2003-12-15

this is the only wilson book i have read thus far. let me say first of all that it TERRIFIED the living daylight out of me until the solution to the mystery was revealed. i was scared to be in a fully lit room by myself.

the esotericism of this book made it a very fun read; i found it hard to stop (except when it got too frightening)! reading masks of the illuminati was definitely worth my time, paranoia, and sleepless nights!

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America's True Founders

Setting Up The Stage

Fascinating and Compelling

A TRUE JEWEL OF A BOOK

Disapointed

Founding Fathers, Secret Societies: Freemasons, Illuminati, Rosicrucians, and the Decoding of the Great Seal
Robert Hieronimus , and Laura Cortner
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ASIN: 1594770875
Release Date: 2006-01-08

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An exploration of the influence of secret societies on the formative documents and symbols of the United States

â€¢ Reveals the Founding Fathersâ€™ spiritual vision for America as encoded in the Great Seal

â€¢ Traces the influence of the Iroquois League of Nations upon the Constitution

â€¢ Exposes the deep connections the Founding Fathers had with the Freemasons and other secret societies

All children growing up in America learn who the Founding Fathers were. Most, however, never learn of the foundersâ€™ connections to the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, and other esoteric orders. In Founding Fathers, Secret Societies Robert Hieronimus investigates these important connections and how their influence can be traced throughout our most significant national documents and symbols, especially the Great Seal. He reveals in detail how the reverse of the Great Seal--which appears on the back of the one-dollar bill--is a blueprint that conveys the secret destiny of America. By understanding the kabbalistic meaning of the Great Sealâ€™s reverse, he shows how our current era presents unique opportunities for the fulfillment of our Founding Fathersâ€™ spiritual vision.

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America's True Founders.......2007-03-31

Revealing look at America's founding fathers, who adopted the Iroquois confederacy concept. For in depth masonic info (& America's hidden history), check out Secret Destiny of America and Brotherhood of the Sun.

Setting Up The Stage.......2006-10-25

I thought the first half of this book had a lot of information regarding are founding fathers and their individual accomplishments along with a shortly detailed discription of different secret societies. However, the second half of the book was very repititious with talks of psychology and the whole mysticism metaphysical b.s. that lead him to his own conclusions about the seal that most likely are not true because of the many examples of the possibilities that the seal can be broken down. There is a deeper purpose behind this book and it is setting us up to believe that a one world unified system will be a good thing, when the truth is that it won't be. We can't be too focused on the learning of one "self" because then we become "selfish" and that goes hand in hand with deep thinking, science, the metaphysical world and that just takes us away from who we should really be worshiping. I feel like I can't write anymore because people need to find out for themselves the real purpose of this book.

Fascinating and Compelling.......2006-09-19

I have not posted a review on [...], or for that matter, any other book-related website for several years, but felt I had to do so after reading Founding Fathers, Secret Societies. Dr. Robert Hieronimus, ably assisted by Laura Cortner, have given us a book for our times, and one of the most fascinating and compelling retellings of the founding of this country ever published. With true scholarship and first class story-telling, Hieronimus and Cortner establish for us the ethics and humanity upheld by the League of Iroquois, and the tremendous impact that their beliefs and actions had on our founding fathers. They go on to decode in detail the true meanings of the Great Seal of the United States and reassert the real vision behind the founding of our great nation. I don't read a lot of fiction, but I read this book with the attention and focus I usually reserve only for a true page-turner of a novel. And given the ever-deepening rifts in our current body politic, I came away from Founding Fathers profoundly moved and, yes, inspired. I can only add that no matter what your political predisposition may be, this remarkable volume offers us all an opportunity to reflect on the real story behind the birth of America, the true vision its founders had for the republic, and some practical thoughts on how we can all help it to get back on track. Robert Hieronimus and Laura Cortner have performed a great service in making this knowledge available to all of us, and I for one thank them for their efforts. A must read.

Peter Robbins
Co-author, Left At East Gate

A TRUE JEWEL OF A BOOK.......2006-06-11

This book is a multidimensional discourse on the founding of a Nation whose history is veiled and obscured intentionally in secrecy. The author presents facts about the contributions of indigenous people in the founding of this Nation not told on any level of formal education. The author mentions there were Masonic symbols found in the wilderness of North America where no white man had ever ventured. These symbols were thought to be centuries old. By reading this book one can better figure how America fits into the national & international landscape from the very beginning. I like how the author breaks down the personal charts of the founders Franklin, Washington etc. Not a conspiracy book at all. I found it hard to put down once I started it. The notes and bibliography presents a vast amount of material for further research. I would highly recommend this book to the real seeker of truth, not for those who can not handle the truth. A good companion to this book would be "The Huevolution of Sacred Muur Science Past and Present" by Noble Timothy Myers-El

Disapointed.......2006-03-07

This book deals with some fairly rediculous topics. I'm not into mysticism or talisman's or that stuff, so perhaps I am biased.

It did provide a useful history of the 'masonic' symbol on the American one-dollar bill, which I enjoyed.

But Hieronimus puts forth far too much theory regarding supernatural powers for my taste.

Codex Magica: Secret Signs, Mysterious Symbols, and Hidden Codes of the Illuminati

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Interesting Book With Lots of Pictures But Some Errors
Huge amount of information
A massive document of occult deception...
An important work, despite bias of author
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Codex Magica: Secret Signs, Mysterious Symbols, and Hidden Codes of the Illuminati
Texe Marrs
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Codex Magica is awesome in its scope and revelations. It contains over 1,000 actual photographs and illustrations. You'll see with your own eyes the world's leading politicians and celebrities—including America's richest and most powerful—caught in the act as they perform occult magic. Once you understand their covert signals and coded picture messages, your world will never be the same. Destiny will be made manifest. You will know the truth and everything will become clear.

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Interesting Book With Lots of Pictures But Some Errors.......2007-09-20

I bought this book with some reservation. I read a review where the person said Texe Marrs made some mistakes and needs to do a better job with research. Looks like that reviewer might be right. But I had seen Texe Marrs on Google Video and liked him, so I bought the book anyway.

I had great fun flipping through the pictures until I had a "hey, I know that guy" experience on page 174. There I found a piece on Neil Wilson, the former President of the Seventh-day Adventist Church (1979-1990). According to Texe Marrs, in this very blurry picture, Wilson is exchanging an "indisputable" Masonic handshake. He goes on to argue that the "Leadership of the Seventh-day Adventist Church (SDA) is heavily Masonic." That is not true.

Maybe Wilson was a Freemason in disguise, and maybe he wasn't. I don't doubt that some Freemasons have infiltrated the SDA Church... but that last statement goes too far. There is no way the leadership of the church is "heavily" Masonic (my Dad until recently was one of the SDA Vice-Presidents... and he is no Freemason).

As for all those "anti-Christian" groups you mention like "Americans United" that the SDA leadership deals with... here is why they do:

SDA's keep the Seventh-day Sabbath (Saturday) and are DEEPLY concerned about religious bigotry. They don't ever want the government telling them they have to go to church on Sunday. They know they are a minority in this country and are aware of the "Blue Laws" that used to exist. They are also keenly aware that notwithstanding the last century or two of American history, the history of the human race is one of religious bigotry and persecution. So they work with organizations that promote religious liberty and the separation between church and state. That Mr. Marrs, is the ONLY reason why SDA's deal with these groups.

The above is just one example of the errors I found in this book. Here's another... the picture on page 137 showing actor Pierce Brosnan supposedly giving the Devil sign is also wrong. The devil sign requires two fingers to be down. Brosnan clearly has his three middle fingers down and the palm of his hand is facing in, not out like is given with the devil sign. My advice Mr. Marrs: Get out of Texas once in a while... maybe visit Hawaii... then you would be able to recognize the Hawaiian "hang loose" sign when you see it. If you don't have time to go to Hawaii... may I recommend your book "Codex Magica" where on page 123 you posted an article from the "Cleveland Plain Dealer" newspaper which clearly demonstrated the "hang loose" sign which you misidentified just a few pages later on the hand of Pierce Brosnan!

Need I say more? And I haven't even started reading the book yet... just browsing through pictures! The bottom line though- this book has too many interesting pictures to ignore. If you buy it, take it with a grain of salt. And for the record, I still like Texe Marrs.

Huge amount of information.......2007-05-19

While I don't agree with everything the author states in his book, I did find the information inside to be copious and relevant to the subject at hand.

I give this book 5 stars because it delivers everything it promises.

If you want to know about Secret Signs, Mysterious Symbols and Hidden Codes of the Illuminati then look no further than this most informative, picture laden book.

A massive document of occult deception..........2007-05-15

Texe Marrs is a torch-bearer for the underground conspiracy movement that is slowly seeing the light of day... the book contains suprising pictures of media deception, infiltration, and subversion by secret societies...

There are some pictures that I found dubious, but I wouldn't put it past many of those in the media...

It is a must have for any occult or conspiratorial research...

An important work, despite bias of author.......2007-05-10

I like Texe Marrs, though I do not agree on some of his conclusions regarding zionism and the "Jewish" conspiracy that runs the world. I reject that theory. Otherwise I would give this 6 stars!

That being said, this is an important work because it shows without doubt the satanic nature of the world--and that the elites, though they deny it, are involved in covens, witchcraft...and that this is also the culture of the corporate world as well. It's been nod-nod-wink-wink till now... Texe has guts to release this indictment against the controllers and handlers of this world who have been screwing the "little guy" since time immemorial, all connected through satanism.

If you look through Texe's "Jewish Conspiracy Bias", you will find a treasure of information here.

Review on CODEX MAGICA.......2007-01-09

Looks very interesting - haven't got time yet to look closer into the book - but I will - later.

History: Fiction or Science? Chronology 2 (Chronology)

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Check and see
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Romulus courts Helen, Paris founds Rome, Moses goes to Troy..

History: Fiction or Science? Chronology 2 (Chronology)
Anatoly T Fomenko
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`History: Fiction or Science? Chronology 2` is the second volume of the most explosive and astounding tractate on history ever written - however, every theory it contains, no matter how unorthodox, is backed by rock solid scientific data. The book is easy and pleasant to read; it is well-illustrated, contains hundreds of charts, graphs and illustrations, copies of ancient manuscripts, and countless facts attesting to the falsity of the chronology used nowadays. You will be amazed to discover: - That the chronology universally accepted today and taken for granted is simply wrong; - That ALL methods of dating of ancient sources and artefacts known today are erroneous or non-exact; - That there is not a single document that could be reliably dated earlier than the XIth century; The Author refers to the Middle Ages as the Antiquity and proves mutual superimposition of the Second and the Third Roman Empire, both of which become identified as the respective kingdoms of Israel and Judah. Furthermore, he asserts that the famous reform of the Occidental Church in the XI century by Pope Gregory Hildebrand was the reflection of the XII century reforms of Byzantine emperor Andronicus who in his turn identifies with Jesus Christ. The Trojan war counted by Homer happened only as late as of the XIII century A.D. and the great poet actually lived in XIV century A.D. No stone in history of Antiquity is left unturned. Literally. This book is the beginning of a major correction to the chronology we live with.

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Check and see.......2007-06-21

I don't care what other people say of this book. Those affirmig it's fake, they hadn't ever read it. Or have some special reasons to do so. "Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see..." This book won't make you feel comfortable. It'll make you feel free. It'll make you feel you're "not the only one" to feel you'd been lied to for centuries.

Suprise! Suprise!.......2007-03-22

Here is a serie of books which turns "the whole world" upside down. I learned a lot of it and I hope that a new book from A.T. Fomenko will follow very quick. A absolute must for everybody who is interested in history or even a little bit from it.

Prescient St Augustine?.......2006-02-05

We can so far divide the New Chronology into the following three parts:

a) The verifiable theory that proves consensual chronology wrong with the aid of astronomy, statistics and mathematics;

b) The new chronology hypothesis based on a new understanding of known historical facts and the most likely logical explanation of the most obvious inconsistencies inherent in the official version of history;

c) The history conjectures, that is experimental historical reconstructions based on assumptions that the authors believe to make sense in the light of their research and linguistic parallels - void of ironclad factual support to date.

Fomenko's theory complies with the most rigid scientific standards as a whole:

It gives a coherent explanation of what we already know.

- It is consistent: independent lines of inquiry all lead to the same conclusion.

- The predictions it makes are confirmed empirically.

Fomenko goes by the following axioms:

- Chronology is the basis of history;

- Human evolution has always been linear, gradual and irreversible;

- The "cyclic" nature of human civilization is a myth, likewise all the gaps, duplicates, "dark ages" and "renaissances" that we know from consensual history;

- The accumulation of geographical knowledge as reflected in cartography is a gradual and irreversible process;

- The chronological distance between a given manuscript and the events described therein is proportional to the amount of distortions it contains;

- There is no "useless" information in authentic ancient sources.

Why the mainstream historians do not shower mathematician Academician Dr.Prof Fomenko with thanks and laurels?

The Russians:

Because Fomenko asserts that there was no such thing as the Tartar and Mongol invasion followed by three centuries of slavery, providing a formidable body of documental evidence to prove his assertion. The so-called "Tartars and Mongols" were the actual ancestors of the modern Russians, living in a bilingual state with Arabic spoken as freely as Russian. The ancient Russian state was governed by a double structure of civil and military authorities. The hordes were actually professional armies with a tradition of lifelong conscription (the recruitment being the so-called "blood tax"). Their "invasions" were punitive operations against the regions that attempted tax evasion. Fomenko proves that Russian history as we know it today is a blatant forgery concocted by a host of German scientists brought to Russia by the usurper dynasty of the Romanovs, whose ascension to the throne was the result of coup d'état, charged with the mission of making their reign look legitimate. Fomenko proves Ivan the Terrible to be a collation of four rulers, no less. They represented the two rival dynasties - the legitimate rulers and the ambitious upstarts. The winner took it all! Over some 30 years of controversy, Russian historians have made a most remarkable transition - they were initially accusing the young mathematician Fomenko of anticommunist dissident activity and attempts to deface the historical legacy of Soviet Russia; nowadays the middle-aged mathematician is accused of adhering to "pro-communist Russian nationalism" and defacing the proud historical legacy of Great Russia.

The Westerners:

Because Fomenko blows consensual Russian history to smithereens, successfully removing a crucial cornerstone from underneath the otherwise impeccable edifice of World History. Fomenko adds insult to injury, wiping out one by one the Ancient Rome (the foundation of Rome in Italy is dated to the XIV century A. D.), the Ancient Greece and its numerous poleis, which he identifies as the mediaeval crusader settlements on the territory of Greece, and the Ancient Egypt (the pyramids of Giza become dated to the XI-XV century A. D. and identified as the royal cemetery of the Global "Mongolian" Empire, no less). The civilization of the Ancient Egypt is irrefutably dated to the XII-XV century A. D. with the aid of the ancient Egyptian horoscopes cut in stone. He was the first one to decipher and date all such horoscopes, coming up with mediaeval dates in every case. English historians rage at the suggestion that the history of Ancient England was de facto a Byzantine import transplanted to the English soil by the fugitive Byzantine nobility. To reward the English historians who consider themselves the true scribes of World History, the cover of the present book portrays Tintoretto's Jesus Christ crucified on the Big Ben.

The Chinese:

Because Fomenko wipes out the Ancient History of China outright. No such thing. Full point. The compilation of the so-called Ancient Chinese History is reliably datable to the XVII-XVIII century only. It is perfectly recognizable as the Ancient European history, reworked and transcribed in hieroglyphs as yet another historical transplantation, this time performed on the Chinese soil by the loving Jesuit hands. The Chinese are the next in line to go berserk. Chinese history is inevitably bound to get both more ancient and more eventful, proportionally to the growing involvement of China in the world affairs. Chinese historians will keep on finding valid proof of prehistoric Chinese spaceflights until the Politburo orders them to shut up.

The Arabs:

Too bad. Islam with all its key figures is datable to XV-XVI century A. D. Arabic historians may find consolation in the crucial historical role of the Ottoman Empire in the XVI-XVII century. The trouble is that this empire was initially a Christian state, with Hagia Sophia identifiable as Temple of Solomon, according to Fomenko! We can only guess if the acquisition of Alexander the Great (a Macedonian and a Christian) as the founder of the Muslim World Empire will make Fomenko's theories more acceptable to the Arabic mainstream. He certainly does not spare any holy cows at all, claiming The Stone of Qa'Aba in Mecca to contain the lost Arch of the Covenant.

The Divinity:

Despite of reiterated statement that his theory is all about chronology and not Religion, Fomenko stirs up a whole condominium of wasp nests. His collection of anathemas, fatwa, and other condemnations from all parties concerned is already considerable. Little wonder, considering that the history of religions à la Fomenko looks as follows: the pre-Christian period (before the XI century and JC), Bacchic Christianity (XI-XII century, before and after JC), JC Christianity (XII-XVI century) and its subsequent mutations into Orthodox Christianity, the Catholicism, Islam, Buddhism, and so on.

According to Fomenko we know strictly NOTHING about the events that predate the X century A. D.

St Augustin was prescient when he spoke unto us: "be wary of mathematicians, particularly when they speak the truth."

Something of a disappointment.......2005-09-09

After having read the first volume of this expected series of 7 volumes I was triggered by the thesis of these authors that ancient Greek and Roman history did in fact take place in the Middle Ages. So I started studying medieval history of the Middle East - also known as Islamic history - to find out if the opponents of the ancient Greeks and Romans - the Acheamenid Persians, Sassanids, Scythians, Egyptians, etc. - also have their duplicates in medieval history. My search was disappointing: none of the many medieval Islamic dynasties seemed to correspond to the ancient middle eastern rulers.

However, I did find a close correspondence between Herodotus' Persian kings and medieval events:

- the defeat and capture of an Anatolian king - the Lydian Croesus - by the Persian conqueror Cyrus is identical to the defeat and capture of another Anatolian king - sultan Bayezid - by the Asian/Mongol conqueror Tamerlane;
- the Persian conquest of Egypt by the cruel tyrant Cambyses reds almost exactly as the Ottoman conquest of Egypt by Selim the Grim (note the nickname!);
- Darius the Lawgiver of the Persian Empire looks very much alike to Sulayman the Magnificent, the Lawgiver in Islamic history;
- Xerxes, whose main claim to fame is to be defeated by the Greeks at the naval battle of Salamis, looks like Selim II (the Sot) whose main claim to fame is to be defeated by a Spanish-Italian alliance at the naval battle of Lepanto.

I should have expected Fomenko et al. to arrive at similar conclusions, however, they claim that the Persian kings are the alter egos of the Angevin kings of Sicily whose biographies do not contain the exploits of the Persian kings.

The similiarities I indicate lead to the conclusion that Herodotus must have written his Histories at the close of the 16th century. But this is extremely late, given that Herodotus is "the Father of History", so therefore all other "ancient" histories must have been fabricated even later. Yet, the founders of modern chronology - Scaliger and Petavius - laid their foundations also at the close of the 16th century and had the full corpus of ancient histories already at their disposal.

It seems to me that Fomenko has to address these inconsistencies, maybe in the forthcoming 5 volumes?

Another critique of their book is that the correspondencies between different rulers are often based on a superficial comparison of the biographies; upon a more thorough comparison many details appear that do not correspond at all.

Finally, the authors rely heavily on the works of Gregorovius (1821-1891!!) - his medieval histories of Rome and Athens - as the source of medieval history; these works are - at least in the West - hoplessly outdated and have been superceded by more up-to-date works (for instance, Julius Norwich's trilogy on Byzantine history is not even cited).

Romulus courts Helen, Paris founds Rome, Moses goes to Troy.........2005-07-30

If you agree with Fomenko that Roman chronology is basically the foundation of the entire edifice of global chronology; you would also certainly agree that despite its numerous gaps and inconsistencies, Roman history is the best-documented field of ancient history, and thus a reference scale. But how well is the actual date of the Eternal City's foundation known?

Firstly, Rome is supposed to have been founded by the Trojans who had to flee after the fall of Troy. Some claim Rome to have been founded by Aeneas and Ulysses shortly after Troy had fallen; others are of the opinion that there was an entire dynasty that ruled for 500 years between the fall of Troy and the foundation of Rome.

Well, that's just an innocent 500 years long misunderstanding compared with what heretic Fomenko says, asserts, proves in his second volume: Second Roman Empire, Third Roman Empire, Biblical Kingdom of Israel, Biblical Kingdom of Judah, Holy Roman Empire are stories about basically same events, written from different points of view at different times. The underlying events have actually taken place during xii-xv cy. These histories have been written and perfected by multitude of highly talented humanist and clerical writers of xiii-xvi cy disguised as "ancients" with glorious names like Homer, Pluto, Thucydides etc..Chronology 2.0 beta..

Historians are kindly invited to report the bugs.

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Great book, but
Hardcore Paranoia + Facts + Hearsay = Very Mixed Bag
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Bloodlines of the Illuminati

Manufacturer: Westminster, CO, Ambassador House, 2002
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True facts. But a little unorganized........2006-11-10

If I didn't know about the Illuminati beforehand, I would have been lost reading this book. It is very detailed with a lot of very interesting facts, but the author goes off on many unexplained tangents. He has much research that deserves a little bit of merit, but I feel that he could have brought them into perspective a little better. But overall, it is an interesting read.
If you know nothing of the existance of the Illuminati, then I would suggest reading something else, first, then come back and use this book as a good reference.
Basically, the book is an exhauative history of the 13 "royal" bloodlines, a.k.a the illuminati. Some of the bloodlines include: The Bundy's, the Astor's, the Rockefeller's, the Kennedy's, the Reynold's, and more.

Foolishness for the gullible believers.......2006-10-13

This book ignores actual history to build its conspiracies. For example, Carnegie did become a wealthy man but he also spent his wealth putting libraries in thousands of towns in America. And, he was from very humble beginnings. The idea that he was somehow also a bloodline satanist is completely ridiculous given his strong Scottish Protestantism that gave him his strong work ethic and his generous practice of paying his workers far more than the going rate so they could raise their families decently. And, he is only one of many that this book falsely maligns. Go read a few biographies instead of this nonsense.

As to the "evil Illuminati", do some reading and you'll find out they were rebelling against brutal tyrannies to establish democracies. And, that they tended to get caught and put to death by those tyrannies. No magic, no covens, nothing like that -- just brave European men and women who thought human beings should be free and were willing to die for the cause.

Read real history, think, and work steadily toward your goals instead of allowing yourself to be drawn into another's paranoid fantasy.

It also appears that F.S. (not his real name) was arrested and convicted for participating in a bank robbery. Not my idea of a role model!

Great book, but.......2005-12-22

I can't say I fully agree with Fritz Springmeier on the existence of Satan nor his (seeming) belief that anything except fundamentalist Christianity is some spawn of Satan.

For example, he once told of a trip to Thailand where he spotted "demon houses" - basically the little Buddhist shrines that Thais put in front of their homes and businesses. Demon houses? Fritz is a bit narrow minded - albeit a good researcher.

I agree that the Catholic church has gone to hell in a handbasket - all one needs to do is read what Malachi Martin had to say about it. However, just because the power elite finance some religion does not mean it is bad, evil or untrue. The power elite are pro what they term "the opiate of the masses" just because they think it has a stupefying effect on the common man. Some forms of religion, Eastern or Western, are in fact spiritually uplifting, a fact which they are not developed enough to see.

Satanism on the other hand, is grossly materialistic, and certainly not uplifting, except on a very base, egotistical level. Therefore, it tends to attract base egotistical minds. However, from what I understand, the "Illumined Ones" don't necessarily believe in Satanism, but use it to recruit the lower level chumps - who then become compromised (i.e. blackmail-able) - well, they need SOMEONE to do their bidding - don't want to get those lilywhite, elitist hands dirty, at least not directly.

According to a little blurb I read somewhere (it may be in this book, but it was written by F.S.) the Reynolds family is on the outs with the other Illuminati families. This may explain why the tobacco industry has been under seige for so long - does it make sense that beer ads and ads for pharmaceuticals are in our faces these days, more than ever, and tobacco is a big no-no?

Also, Fritz mentions how the powers that be have a great admiration of the Chinese and Japanese, and have basically "allowed" them to take center space on the world stage. If you think there isn't a conspiracy going on, consider that we hear very little of what goes on or has gone on in China, a totalitarian dictatorship, that is negative. The fact that Chinese leaders have threatened to nuke our major cities should have right wing "patriot" talk show mouths flapping, but they are strangely silent. Could it be that it's because Clear Channel, with strong Bush and Kissinger connections, runs most of these radio stations? "Patriots" my a** - they're trained monkeys of the Illuminists. I'd quit worrying about Muslim terrorists, if I were you, and start keeping an eye on China.

This is a well-researched book and should have a broad audience - it needs to be proofread before it goes into print because of errors - for ex. Joe Kennedy is referred to a couple of times as Jack.

Hardcore Paranoia + Facts + Hearsay = Very Mixed Bag.......2005-09-24

On the back cover it says the author has been involved in Christian ministries. He says the ruler of the illuminati is Satan. He uses language like: "The ruler of this sinister empire is Satan. The Illuminati is his brainchild and the Lord of Corruption directs his kingdom with an iron fist." His definition of Satanism, which seems to be absolutely everywhere except in Christianity, is so broad as to be useless. For example, positive thinking=witchcraft (p 116) and anyone advertising something to people to "Expand Their Potential" is really saying "Worship Lucifer" (p392). Seemingly without irony he states on page 160: "There are not many critical thinkers in this nation".

The good bits I thought were the chapters covering the history of Jehovah's Witness and Mormon movements, which appear to have been well researched. Much of the book is unreferenced however and on various occasions I wanted to just chuck this book in the trash for its sheer stupidity. Some lowlights: "MJ12 runs the USA" (p159), "Saturn in the occult means Satan" (p34), the environmental movement is "being used to push an Illuminati agenda to strip the people of their freedoms and provide a basis for the Illuminati families to own the entire world" (p221) (ok, there might be an element of truth in this), "Money naturally attracts itself to evil" (p242), so that means if anyone is a success in business they presumably are in league with "the Devil".

As the author is a Christian, it is not surprising that he absolves Christianity of any blame for the world's problems. In a small section on the Holocaust (in which he says that you can't believe anything you read on that subject) he mentions, "The truth is that many Christians died in the Holocaust". The reader is then directed to footnote number 99, which states, "This is widely known". No mention then of Adolf Hitler's declaration that he was a Christian, and no mention of how the bible refers to the Jews as being "vipers". According to him, religion is entirely blameless: "Unfortunately, many have been fooled into thinking that being devout and faithful to God is the source of religious fighting" (p291). Well, having read the Koran, I know that it contains the instruction for "believers" to fight until Islam reigns supreme (Sura 2:190). And of course Christianity gave the world the Inquisition and Christian forces wiped out peaceful civilizations in the Americas. On page 391 Mr Springmeier notes, "Even Justin Martyr noted that the Christian Christ was a parallel to the sons of Jupiter of the pagan Mystery Religions" and on page 397 he announces, "Lucifer is the authority of the Mystery Religions", so maybe he is wondering himself about the nature of Christianity.

For a more balanced investigation along these lines I would recommend Rule by Secrecy by Jim Marrs, Them by Jon Ronson and Conspirators' Heirarchy by John Coleman.

Requiring much prerequiste research.......2005-06-15

No person who hasn't already done extensive research could possibly accept the conclusions in this book, that being said, this book will blow the mind of the most seasoned researcher multiple times per chapter, this must be the greatest body of research in the last century.

Solomon's Power Brokers: The Secrets of Freemasonry, the Church, and the Illuminati

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DOCUMENTED
Interesting ideas that add up
More bunk from Knight

Solomon's Power Brokers: The Secrets of Freemasonry, the Church, and the Illuminati
Christopher Knight , and Alan Butler
Manufacturer: Watkins
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DOCUMENTED.......2007-05-27

If anyone thinks Christopher Knight's books aren't true, I can't understand why. Not only are they well written, they are thoroughly documented throughout all the pages.

Interesting ideas that add up.......2007-04-04

I like this book a lot. There is a real thread here that has been well developed by these guys. This is more speculative than the well-argued case such as explained in their previous book - Civilization One, but its all pretty convincing anyway.

More bunk from Knight.......2007-03-19

How this guy continues to get published is beyond me. He never presents a fact...he'll start out with an assumption, discuss it, and then later on, build a new assumption on the previous assumption, but now present it as if it were fact!

I've been a 32nd Degree Mason of the Scottish Rite for over 10 years now...and Knight's books have always been good for one thing and one thing only: a laugh at Knight's own ignorance. I read The Hiram Key with an open mind and an attempt to see where he was coming from. The only value that book had was for entertainment purposes, and for spurring of some interesting debate amongst Lodge members.

Refer back to one of his other books where he discusses Jacques De Molay as the source of the Shroud of Turin. While an interesting theory, he never once provides compelling proof of, well, anything.

A wonderful storyteller, nothing more. If you're looking for FACTUAL books about Masonry, do not look to Christopher Knight for the truth.

The Earth Will Shake: The History of the Early Illuminati (The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles)

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Best of the three
Historical fiction, fun, sun and piracy
Earth Still Shaking
Excellent
Back at last! Move aside, Dan Brown...

The Earth Will Shake: The History of the Early Illuminati (The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles)
Robert Anton Wilson
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They have been with us all through history: The "Invisible College" of wisdom, and their adversaries---the destroyers---who rise from the flames to burn again. The history of the world is their story: a conspiracy as vast and all-encompassing as the riddle of time itself.

In Naples, Italy, in 1764, a young aristocrat is about to stumble onto one piece of the great pattern. Through a heartless murder and his passion for the beautiful daughter of his enemy, young Sigismundo Celine uncovers the mystery of the Rossi brigade, former M.A.F.I.A. assassins, and the secret agenda of the dreaded Inquisition.

In the wind of the raging social storm that will soon tear through Europe and America with the flame of revolution, Sigismundo begins his journey of discovery, joined by the boy Mozart, Dr. Frankenstein, Casanova the spy, lover and magician...and a mysterious violet-eyed assassin who calls him "brother."

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Best of the three.......2006-08-21

I absolutely loved this book. It would be a five star review, except for the fact that I've already read the two follow-ups. They betray the fact that RAW burned through all his best ideas on the first book. What appear in EWS as great set-ups for subsequent books turned out to be one-shots, left to die on the vine in the rest of the series. The Widow's Son is also a good book, but RAW spent too much time on farcical footnotes and not enough on character and plot development. So some of the genius of The Earth Will Shake is ruined by lack of cultivation.

Still, I strongly recommend this book to anyone interested in historical fiction, conspiracies and using the arts to help liberate mankind.

Historical fiction, fun, sun and piracy.......2006-01-12

Robert Anton Wilson has proven to be capable of extraordinary talent with this series. Mixing fiction with non-fiction he weaves one of the most satisfying Masonic related tales to be discovered and published. The Earth Will Shake, The Widows Son and Natures God are a type of writing that I had previously not encountered through Wilson. This series can actually be very inspiring, and it's written in such a dramatic way I am convinced it would make an excellent movie. Yet, at the end of the series, the reader sees reference to the fourth book "The World Turned Upside Down", and alas, it is non-existant. Whatever reason Bob has for abandoning us devout readers of this series (I have read all three books three times and stolen much wit from them) I urge you, dear Bob, please don't leave us hanging, finish the fourth book! More! More! Your Friend, Joey

Earth Still Shaking .......2005-12-29

I read this book back in the late 80's when it was printed by a mass-market publisher (Signet, I think) containing two abridged volumes; The Earth Will Shake and The Widow's Son. I loved it then and was never able to find Nature's God. Now I have all 3 books. After re-reading this edition, I've enjoyed it twice as much!! There is still yet an unpublished forth book, "The World Turned Upside Down" and we're all awaiting this gem to be published. Earth Will Shake is a coming of Age novel set in the enlightenment era where a murder happens in church during an Easter mass. From that point on it's a roller coster ride of wicked but serious fun. You are enlightened by the sheer weight of the subject matter that continues to this day. In these works you meet diverse characters who are historically real. I.e., the young Mozart, Count Cagliostro and Casanova, just to name a few. Dan Brown though entertaining, is comparatively an amateur hack when writing about the Illumniati (see for yourself and read this. You won't be disappointed). When the Da Vinci Code got ALL the attention, there was no mention of this work and I find that a sad reality though parr for the course in these "shaky" times. Remember, "reality is what you can get away with"...

Excellent.......2005-09-06

Anything by Robert Anton Wilson is worth reading. His Illuminati stuff is doubly so. The original Illuminatus Trilogy is one of the greatest scifi, horror, thriller, political, historical, adventure and pornographic novels ever written. All of the Historical Illuminatus books are equally well done, equally fun to read, and equally true historically.

Back at last! Move aside, Dan Brown..........2005-06-15

In the early 1980's, I lived in San Francisco. I knew actual members of the OTO, mysterious avant garde musicians, punk rockers and performance artists, bicycle messengers, typesetters, cabinet makers and optical laser artists. My life was going to hell on drugs and alcohol. I regret not a moment of it, but several things got me through the bad time. One was a book by Robert Anton Wilson called THE COSMIC TRIGGER. He somehow manages to mix mysticism and skepticism and pragmatism and wit. This Robert Anton Wilson is a metaphysician, good for the angst that might take your very life.

He had also written the famous ILLUMINATI! trilogy, the Schrodinger's Cat series,but had not yet started the series that begins with this very book.

This book is a prequel to the Illuminatus trilogy, in exactly the same way that Neil Stephenson's QUICKSILVER preludes CRYPTONOMICON, only in a much more profound vein.

Meet Sigismundo Celine (obviously the ancestor of the pirate Hagbard Celine we meet in Wilson's earlier/later tale) he is Parsifal, and his tale begins with the death of his father, or not his father, but then he kills his own father. Get out your secret decoder ring, kids--Wilson was on a deeper plane here than either Dan Brown, the aforementioned Stephenson, or even George Lucas--yet mining much of the same territory.

Magic and Madness. Sin and Redemption. Conspiracies and Initiation. If you are smart enough to read this book--the next one is a real doozy--certainly the best book Wilson ever wrote.

Then there was a break of more than a decade. Every time I heard Wilson on the radio (KPFK in the dead of night--he has a fan base out here in California)I would call and beg him for the third book. When it did arrive it was excellent but had lost the wind, somehow. Possibly it was me. Readers are half the reading.

But these books are the REAL MAGILLA. If you understand what RAW is saying here--it will enter your mind like a virus and it will change you. This is not just fiction. You are warned.

Sixteen years ago I appeared in a play by Robert Anton Wilson called WILHELM REICH IN HELL. It was in a small nightclub in Long Beach--but I got to meet the great man. As Tim Leary once said of him, Wilson was glowingly sane. (or was that what wilson said of leary???) The proof is on the page, and this one waits for YOU.

(Robert Anton Wilson--if you read this review, please write us the fourth book. I have read nearly every word you have ever written, even magazine articles and this is the one to leave us gasping--if you can't, I understand. We face tomorrow unafraid and carry the meme of freedom. Persevere.

Nature's God (The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles)

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Dear Bob, please finish and release the fourth book before you croak, it's your best artwork...
Excellent
Immensely quotable
Interesting and amusing read
don't buy it used

Nature's God (The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles)
Robert Anton Wilson
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They are the most secret of organizations and the most powerful---the Illuminati. They continue to shift the patterns of history to fulfill plans of their own, to open pathways to power which ordinary mortals are never meant to tread.

It is 1776, and Sigismundo Celine, a young Neapolitan aristocrat and musician---exiled from his homeland after an unfortunate duel---has fled Europe for the American colonies. Here he will seek to master the next levels of metaphysical magic, and search for the Indian territories. In the meantime, the Irish fisherman, Moon, is caught up in revolution, his fate linked with George Washington and Lafayette. While Sigismundo prepares to contest the most powerful of the Indian medicine men, Moon, Washington, and the troops are waging an equally desperate battle for survival. THESE ARE THE EVENTS WHICH WILL SOON RESHAPE THE WORLD...

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Dear Bob, please finish and release the fourth book before you croak, it's your best artwork..........2006-01-12

Mr. Wilson, (not to be confused with that cantankerous abomination that lived next door to Dennis the menace), would do us a big flâva fave if he would 'git his ol' booty fininishin' and submittin' the fourth book he mentions as forthcoming at the end of this excellent book "Nature's God"! At the end of this book RAW says to look forward to the fourth book in the Historical Illuminatus Chronicles series and even gives us a title, Volume IV - "The World Turned Upside Down". So what happened? FYI in case the reader doesn't know, this is RAW's best artwork to date and yeah I've read pretty much everything so why he would let a big fan like me down by not finishing the series makes one want to say "Git' your flabby old tired geezer of an ace up and finish the series!" Not the most articulated formed sentence attempting to garner favor from Mr. Wilson and solicit his involvement in FINISHING THE FOURTH BOOK. Seriously, great book and Thank you dear brother Robert, may peace and joy reign throughout the remainder of this incarnation. Your fan, joey

Excellent.......2005-09-06

The third in the Historical Illuminatus Trilogy. As good as the other two, and they were great. The only problem I see is that thus far, this is the last one. There should be more. I hope the Robert Anton Wilson reads this, and writes some more in this series. Robert Anton Wilson left this plane on January 11, 2007. He will be sorely missed.

Immensely quotable.......2005-02-07

In Nature's God, the third book of Wilson's Historical Illuminatus Chronicles, it is 1776, and our dear Sigismundo Celine has done a runner and made for America. Here he meets up with Seamus Muadhen, now James Moon, who also left the old world after not killing his sworn enemy. They chat, briefly but insightfully, over alcohol before parting ways, Sigismundo further drowning himself: `Those of happy histories can ask what lies behind the surface of things. Those of us who know what lies behind the surface always choose to enjoy every illusion as long as possible. The color of a perfect English rose in my brain, not in the flower, but I would prefer to enjoy the color than to think dull thoughts like that. Leave philosophy to the innocent. We veterans of infernos and abysses prefer the roses, the sunsets, and the beautiful meaningless music' (pg 36). Shortly after, James joins revolutionary army of George Washington and Lafayette.

After leaving a few false leads in his wake, Sigismundo flees to the wilderness where he build himself a cabin, and sit in meditation `seeking the solitude to make his mind an empty mirror at the age of twenty-six. That was the result of being involved with conspirators and magicians since he was fourteen' (pg 69-70). However he is occasionally interrupted by the adorably named Miskasquamish of the Maheema, a shaman of a fictional Native North American tribe.

Meanwhile, back in England, Maria is initiated into a surviving witch cult in England and begins spreading feminist propaganda under a false name, while her husband advances in Freemasonry and turns to the drink and boys.

This is an immensely quotable book, perhaps even more so than the previous volumes, despite its smaller size. don't think this will be the last book in the chronicles, it seems decidedly unfinished, with the possibility of a fourth in the future.

Wilson has packed a lot of excellent material into this work - where else are you going to read an in depth piece on God's Willy? Highly recommended in addition to the previous two.

Interesting and amusing read.......2003-08-19

I found Robert Anton Wilson's Three Volume Historical Illuminatus Chronicles an amusing read. I read these in the early 1990s and one quote stuck. 'Intellectual laziness and common sense are the same thing. Common sense is just the tradename of the firm.' It has helped me laugh laugh off complacent people for the past ten years. I have applied this quotation in much of my published writing as well as my PhD thesis. I often bring it out during business conferences when people say to me 'That's just common sense'. I have been using this for over ten years and I always get a laugh from the other people in the room and a degree of compliance and dissent from they who try to dismiss and stymie my efforts to help people deal with new ideas.

Read the three books and find it.

I reckon Nature's God should be as well known as Persig's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

My only complaint is that Robert refuses to engage in any sensible discourse about his ideas.

don't buy it used.......2002-04-15

I'm a fan of wilson's and have enjoyed his Historical Illuminatus series. I've hesitated to buy the 3rd volume because of it's limited availability and steep price for a used copy. Happily it will soon be reprinted so don't waste your money. See New Falcon for info.

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