A Language Older Than Words
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  • An incredible wake-up call
  • The pigeons told me...
  • Only a diatribe, not philosophy
  • Difficult but profound book
  • frustratingly captivating
A Language Older Than Words
Derrick Jensen
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Book Description

At once a beautifully poetic memoir and an exploration of the various ways we live in the world, A Language Older Than Words explains violence as a pathology that touches every aspect of our lives and indeed affects all aspects of life on Earth. This chronicle of a young manÂ's drive to transcend domestic abuse offers a challenging look at our worldwide sense of community and how we can make things better.

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars An incredible wake-up call.......2007-08-12

I can't think of another book that has affected me as profoundly as this one. It woke me up to the living world, or rather, made me remember what I knew as a child and managed under this coercive culture to forget: that the natural world speaks to us, if only we listen. As we witness the world being murdered before our eyes, we urgently need to learn to listen, before it's too late.

In all of Derrick Jensen's work, he offers brilliant insights about why civilization is killing the planet and what we can and must do about it. Many people have described this book as "heartbreaking," and that's true -- it breaks through the surface of hearts hardened by denial, confronts us with despair, then leads us carefully to the other side of that despair into healing and the possibility of conscious action. It combines investigation and well-reasoned political analysis with an engaging personal style and rare honesty that together offer the reader both intellectual understanding, and just as importantly, a deep emotional comprehension.

After reading this book I immediately bought three copies to give to relatives, in the hope that they would be strengthened by it as I have been, to break the silence, join the world, and stop the horrors.

1 out of 5 stars The pigeons told me..........2007-07-06

As novels go, this one is OK. Too bad it's not a novel. Taken as a work of "philosophy of nature," I am not sure whether I am more surprised or depressed by all of the positive, swelling reviews of this poorly written, terribly irrational and profoundly dishonest book. References to Jensen's courage are sprinkled generously throughout these reviews but having slogged through this book, I would say the author is more narcissistic than courageous, more self-absorbed than profound.

From the first page on, the writing resembles the efforts of the average high school sophomore's early attempts at profundity. On the one hand, page after page of "matter-of-fact" assertions about what is wrong with nearly everyone and everything except Jensen himself are linked by spurts of polemical rant that are simply under-documented or, worse still, totally undocumented. Jensen writes with the sloppy hyperbole and loosely formed metaphor of one who is eager to fill pages. Confirming my suspicion that Jensen is aiming for a "big book" is the endlessly repetitive quality of the events narrated: no event in his life bears telling only once. The resulting text is one of the most poorly written books I have ever forced myself to read. (Some here have claimed this book was the best they have ever read, I personally can't imagine such a dire reading list.)

To defend himself against the obvious charge that his basic arguments are unscientific, irrational and purely anecdotal, Jensen attacks Cartesian philosophy early in his book, making of it a rather flimsy structure and then pompously knocking down the over-simplified Descartes he himself has created. Quoting (without references)someone who may or may not be Descartes, Jensen points out that the philosopher held many of the horrible world views of his day (racism, sexism, anti-Semitism) as if Descartes' philosophical insights are simply invalid because he does not meet the benchmarks of contemporary cultural values some 300 plus years later. Ditto Jensen's dismissal of science and the scientific method. Roughly put, Jensen argues that scientists torture animals and have created terrible and destructive forces, like atomic weapons, therefore the argument that something ought to be demonstrably reproducible and confirmable is just part of the whole evil and silencing system and need not be brought to bear on his own assertions about life, the planet, etc.

One painfully obvious example is the "conversation" Jensen has with the coyotes eating his poultry and the "conversations" he has with the poultry itself asking their permission to kill and eat them. Jensen is convinced, based on his observations, that when he politely asks the coyotes to stop eating his birds in exchange for bird parts he will give them that they hear him and act according to his wishes. He does not consider any other possible explanation for the animals' behavior; they are not agents of their own lives but rather puppets in a world of his creating in which he has the god-like ability to convey his desires to other species and they, apparently conversant in English, obey. Similarly, Jensen threatens his drakes by saying whichever one next sexually assaults a female will be slaughtered. Again, the ducks understand and one "chooses" to be his dinner.
No need to establish any evidence that such communication happens, just interpret events as they suit your world view and they are so. Oddly, it never seems to occur to Jensen that perhaps the coyotes have communicated with the ducks too, receiving as Jensen does, the ducks' permission to eat them.

This raises the question of Jensen's honesty. Throughout the book he asserts that the stars, the coyotes, trees, his dogs and bees have spoken with him. They are intimately aware of his needs and change their behavior to meet them. And so it goes, it turns out that it is OK for Jensen to eat meat because he bought the chicks he raises to "meathood" and they belong to him, and what's more they gave him permission. But didn't slaves "belong" to their masters, didn't wives 'belong" to their husbands, and children to their parents? No need to answer these or any questions, because Jensen is not interested in a verifiable truth, just in the Truth as he creates it to justify his own actions and condemn the same behaviors in others.

Like the biblical god he emulates, Jensen holds jealous sway over the world he rules, broaching no interlopers or false gods (science, reason, other points of view, his neighbor's home) and swaying wildly between a message of love (with caveats) and a wrathful and destructive impulse to punish the unworthy and the sinful. And, as with proof of god, there seems to be no human or natural event that cannot be ruthlessly twisted to support Jensen's arguments. The list of his evidence is long: the holocaust, African bondage in the Americas, genocide in Rwanda and of Native peoples, extinction of species, rape, child murder, racism, sexism, homophobia and even Jensen's own sexual abuse at the hands of his father. The list goes on and on, but rather than actually analyze any of these events trying to get to understanding through contextualization, Jensen proffers a "you're either with me or with my father who raped me" argument. Believe on him or burn in eternal hell fires.

Clearly from the reviews here, Jensen has many followers (they refer to him by his first name, even in these reviews) but I remain firmly committed to rational discourse and evidentiary argument. But don't just take my word for it, my oregano plant hated this book and the starlings in the tree outside can't stop telling me how awful it truly, truly is.

1 out of 5 stars Only a diatribe, not philosophy.......2006-12-20

Mr Jensen repeatedly focuses us on the violence and coercion of the society as he sees it. He asks : should we kill our senators ("who are tools of genocide, ecocide, and atrocities")? No, but only because it wouldn't do any good. He advocates blowing up dams, and states that he has not done it himself YET because he is "too small".
He says that SILENCE is the root of all our problems - silence allows the holocaust, child abuse, deforestation, wife beating, lack of love, etc. Without Silence, abuse and violence and coercion would not exist. And his solution to the problem: There is no solution. A double bind can only be elimated by obliterating the structure that gave rise to it.
When I looked in the back of the book for references to his quotations, I found that many were not footnoted and it was not possible to find the actual source or author.
In regards to his own abuse, I began to wonder about his view of it. He never says what actually happens, and mentions that his sisters have a different view of it. His other family members don't seem to have any responsibility in the matter. Like everything else in the book, he talks a lot but doesn't say anything with substance: I was always left with more questions, and wondered about his slant on the matter, and all the details that were conveniently left out
Communications with animals: he says the stars talk to him, but never what is being said. There are very few instances where he gives concrete examples of this "communication" with animals, and these can be dismissed by prior vocalizations and training. We are encouraged to listen to messages from animals, but not how to do this.
He calls the person who is building a home next to his house "a killer" (presumably because they are destroying habitat), but does not believe that he and his home destroyed the same. Over and over again, he accuses everybody else of genicide and ecocide for doing exactly the same things he is doing (heating with wood, living in a wood house, killing chickens, ducks, bees; advocating violence, being a capitolist and gasoline burner, carting his bees every day with a truck and pallet lifter, teaching, eating non local food,using electricity,earning a wage,living in this culture and therefore supporting it, etc).
He advocates the very violence and coercion that he says are characteristic of our culture, and that he believes gives rise to genicide and ecocide. He contradicts himself at every turn, and sees everybody as either a victim (himself), or a perpertrator (almost everybody else). I could not believe his dishonesty, and lack of character or responsibility. He blames everybody but himself. He fails to listen to his body, to himself, to family and friends, to others, to animals, to the earth. What does he really believe in? There is nothing in the book that indicates to me that he is either connected to the earth or animals,, despite the hype.

5 out of 5 stars Difficult but profound book.......2006-09-15

There's no doubt that this is a difficult book to read. However, I think books such as this should be required reading for everyone in our western culture, which places no emphasis on introspection. This book may help one to think more about his/her seemingly insignificant actions, and how one's behavior and activities effect others (others within a circle of family and friends, as well as strangers who may live halfway around the world).

5 out of 5 stars frustratingly captivating .......2006-06-21

This book was recommended to me by a friend b/c he said it changed his outlook on life. After reading it I have a lot of feelings about it. Overall i think the book is a must read for any open minded person. Derrick Jensen touches on so many truths w/i both the lives and minds of most, if not all, americans. I felt Jensen's saddness on almost every page, but the great part is that it wasn't a pittying sadness, it was an honest sadness. Anyone who is truelly honest with themselves will get a lot out of this book. However, for the skeptic and the 'intelligent' person, Jensen will seem crazy, and many times, he goes out of the way to paint a picture as if he is crazy.

Many times, through frustration and anger, Jensen will attempt to describe what he is feeling. Sometimes it comes out clear, sometimes its on the tip of his tongue. Half the time i knew exactly what he wanted to say, but i felt that he wasn't quite ready to share this information with us. He wasn't far enough along his journey and hasn't quite figured out his feelings on certain matters. Personally, i didn't care. I enjoyed watching him spirtualy grow on paper, it reminds us of our humanity.

If you were a layman psychologist, or ignorant, you could blame every crazy idea that Jenson has that isn't agreeable with you, on his abusive history or his 'abnormal' passions. Jenson lets his feelings get ahead of him in a few instances and lists religion as a whole as one of the evil's of society, when clearly it is mans use of religion that is the evil. However, i can't really fault the man for not being 100% well thought out. No one is, and he obviously is speaking through many emotions, one of them being anger.

People looking for a perfect book that has no flaws best wait another millenia for one to show up, but for right now, this book is a delectable supplement.
Language Older Than Words
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    Language Older Than Words
    Derrick Jensen
    Manufacturer: SOUVENIR PRESS
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    ASIN: B000GR226W
    Language Older Than Words
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      Language Older Than Words
      Derrick Jensen
      Manufacturer: Souvenir Press
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      ASIN: B000K85IA4
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        Language Older Than Words
        Derrick Jensen
        Manufacturer: NY
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        All American, All The Way: The Combat History Of The 82nd Airborne Division In World War II
        Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
        • If your an Aiborne fan READ THIS BOOK.
        • My Dad Lived this book
        • A Most Excellent Book!
        • Very Extensive and Total History of a Great American Division
        • An incredible book.
        All American, All The Way: The Combat History Of The 82nd Airborne Division In World War II
        Phil Nordyke
        Manufacturer: Zenith Press
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        The 82nd Airborne Division-dubbed the All Americans during World War I, when Sgt. Alvin York was among its soldiers-parachuted into history on the July 9, 1943, as the opening salvo in Operation Husky, the invasion of Sicily. This book, the first to tell the full story of the 82nd - America's first airborne division to see combat, and the only American parachute division still active today-follows the All Americans from their first perilous drop to their victory parade up 5th Avenue in January 1946.

        Customer Reviews:

        5 out of 5 stars If your an Aiborne fan READ THIS BOOK........2007-09-05

        The All American All The Way is the best book I ever read!!!
        There is no foul language that I remember. It takes you through training to Berlin.
        The 82nd Airborn Division stood and hooked up to jump the first mass combat jump in history, on July 10th 1943. Badly scattered on the drop,they looked at their maps to see if they knew where they were. Finally they arrived where they needed to be and in do time were fighting a small band of forces so they thought, but turned out to be tanks accompanied by infantry.
        If you want to know more about the 82nd Airbore buy this book!

        5 out of 5 stars My Dad Lived this book.......2007-08-04

        My father served in the 82nd with 504th parachute regiment from its inception to the war's end. He talked very little about his experiences. Mr. Nordyke's marvelous book, with its accounts by the men who fought the battles, helped me to know my dad better. It will help anyone to understand what combat is really like and the great heroism of these ordinary Americans - almost all of them mere boys. Highly recommended.

        5 out of 5 stars A Most Excellent Book!.......2007-07-24

        I've just finished reading "All American All The Way" and I must say that this book is by far the very best book written on any WWII unit that I have read. With many veteran accounts, Mr. Nordyke takes the reader along from airborne training, the formation of the division, and the actions that the division participated in from Sicily through Germany.

        One can almost hear the roar of battle as the author, and the veterans describe fighting in the hedgerows in Normandy, or street fighting in Holland. I very highly recommend this book to anyone who has an interest in WWII history.

        5 out of 5 stars Very Extensive and Total History of a Great American Division.......2007-03-21

        This is a very extensive, impressive and total history of the 82nd airborne division, what was called by Generals in WWII as the greatest division of the time (of course the 101st airborne would probably argue that). The scope of this book is amazing. In its 776 pages (yes, it is long but very interesting), it lays out all the campaigns fought in WWII including Sicily, Salerno, Italy, Normandy, Netherlands, the Bulge, and Germany. And, the book tells the story at the individual unit (down to company and platoon) and individual level. It is told in the words of the heroes who fought in the 82nd during the war. As mentioned in one review, this should become the standard for not only this division but for any division for laying out the story of the heroism and the tragedy of this war.

        5 out of 5 stars An incredible book........2007-03-09

        What can I say... This is one of the best works of military non-fiction, I have ever had the joy of reading. At first sight of the book, I was a little daunted by it's size. However, due to the fluidic quality of Phil's excellent writing, I found it to be an effortless read. The research involved behind this book is immense, and it thoroughly gripped me, all the way. I've not read such a book of this calibre, in a very long time. The action and information contained within, left me feeling that I had personally been fighting along side with these brave men, all the way!

        This book provides a superb, first hand, graphic insight into the life and hardships of the 82nd Airborne campaigns, throughout the European theatre of operations. Sicily, Italy, Normandy, Holland, Belgium and the German `Siegfried' line, breakthrough.

        It's difficult to find criticism, other than the accounts of life while they were camped in England, during 1944, are a little vague. And my interest in the Division stems from the fact that the 80th Anti-Tank and the 325th Glider Infantry Regiment were billeted only a mile or two, up the road from me, in Leicester. However, this doesn't detract from the fact it's an excellent read.

        The quality of this hardback it of the highest, along with the inclusion of excellent maps illustrating the campaigns, and many archive photographs from the time.

        I'm now at a loss as what to read after this book. This book's a tough act to follow. It's clear, exciting and most thought provoking. A must read for anyone interested in the 82nd Airborne Division, and the European theatre of operations during the Second World War.
        Airborne: A Combat History of American Airborne Forces
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        • A must read for those interested in US military history
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        ASIN: 0891416889
        Release Date: 2003-01-01

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        The United States Army’s experiment with airborne forces started at Fort Benning, Georgia, in early 1940 with a single platoon of paratroopers. From this tiny seed grew the mighty American airborne legion that spearheaded America’s attack against Nazi Germany in Sicily and Normandy. Ultimately this branch included an airborne corps headquarters, five full airborne divisions, and several independent battalions and regiments.

        On the nights of June 5 and 6, 1944, the parachutes and gliders of six regiments of American airborne infantry filled the dark sky over Normandy. Paratroopers and glidermen of the 101st Airborne Division Screaming Eagles were literally dropping into battle for the first time, harbingers of the vast Allied D-day armada. Moments later, they were joined by the veteran All Americans of the 82d Airborne Division, who had first jumped into combat almost a year earlier in Sicily.

        For the American airborne troopers, the road to victory in Europe led through the ill-conceived Arnhem campaign and on to the Bulge, where the American paratroopers saved the day for the Allies. The 17th Airborne Division “bounced the Rhine” in the last airborne operation in Europe and fought across Germany until VE Day with their band of brothers.

        In the Pacific, the Angels of the 11th Airborne Division saw hard combat in the Philippines. The independent 503d Regimental Combat Team fulfilled General MacArthur’s promise to return when it daringly parachuted onto the small area known as Topside on the rocky fortress island of Corregidor.

        Following World War II, the airborne fought with distinction in Korea, Vietnam, and the Gulf War. Along the way American paratroopers have also given yeoman service on smaller battlefields such as the Dominican Republic, Grenada, and Panama. Written by a former paratrooper, Airborne is the definitive combat history of these elite forces.

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        5 out of 5 stars A must read for those interested in US military history.......2006-12-13

        Airborne: A Combat History of American Airborne Forces by LTG (Retired) E. M. Flanagan Jr. Allow me to state my prejudices up front. I am a former United States Army office commissioned through the reserve officer training program (ROTC). I have my jump wings. For those who attended jump school at Fort Benning, I was A36 in class 37 - 76. I proudly wore my jump wings.

        Airborne: A Combat History of American Airborne Forces by LTG Flanagan reminds me in some ways of a military after action report. It mentions people, equipment, backgrounds, TO & E and the never ending officer name, his West Point class year, his class standing if high or low, and if he currently had and in the future will have a historically significant assignment. Rarely is an ROTC and never a battlefield or OCS commissioned officer mentioned.

        The use of Medal of Honor citations throughout the book is good, though it significantly declined after the chapter on the Korean War. The book covers the period of pre World War Two to the end of World War Two in painful detail. At some points the level of detail bogs down and even gets as boring as reading a TO & E.

        The best written part of the book was the coverage of Operation Just Cause in Panama. It reads almost like a newspaper account of the operation. Unfortunately, the coverage given to this operation was not duplicated in other post World War Two events. The brevity of coverage from the period 1946 to the end of the 1990s is shocking.

        I would be interested in knowing when the airborne troops were integrated. Who was the first African American to get his jump wings? Who was the first African American to make a combat jump? While LTG Flanagan did mention the XVIII Airborne Corps does have a limited number of women in it in non combatant positions, I would like to know when women first earned their jump wings and who was first. I know I had three females in my class at airborne school. Only token coverage was given to other branches of the service and Airborne qualified trooper.

        The book needs updated to include the current Afghanistan and Iraq war. All in all, the book is a must read for those interested in US military history.
        The Filthy Thirteen: From the Dustbowl to Hitler's Eagle's Nest :The True Story of the101st Airborne's Most Legendary Squad of Combat Paratroopers
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        The Filthy Thirteen: From the Dustbowl to Hitler's Eagle's Nest :The True Story of the101st Airborne's Most Legendary Squad of Combat Paratroopers
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        Since World War II, the American public has become fully aware of the exploits of the 101st Airborne Division, the paratroopers who led the Allied invasions into Nazi-held Europe. But within the ranks of the 101st, a sub-unit attained legendary status at the time, its reputation persisting among veterans over the decades.

        Primarily products of the Dustbowl and the Depression, the Filthy13 grew notorious, even within the ranks of the elite 101st. Never ones to salute an officer, or take a bath, this squad became singular within the Screaming Eagles for its hard drinking, and savage fighting skill--and that was only in training. Just prior to the invasion of Normandy, a "Stars and Stripes" photographer caught U.S. paratroopers with heads shaved into Mohawks, applying war paint to their faces. Unknown to the American public at the time, these men were the Filthy 13. After parachuting behind enemy lines in the dark hours before D-Day, the Germans got a taste of the reckless courage of this unit - except now the men were fighting with Tommy guns and explosives, not just bare knuckles. In its spearhead role, the 13 suffered heavy casualties, some men wounded and others blown to bits. By the end of the war 30 men had passed through the squad.

        Throughout the war, however, the heart and soul of the Filthy 13 remained a survivor named Jake McNiece, a half-breed Indian from Oklahoma - the toughest man in the squad and the one who formed its character. McNiece made four combat jumps, was in the forefront of every fight in northern Europe, yet somehow never made the rank of PFC. The survivors of the Filthy 13 stayed intact as a unit until the Allies finally conquered Nazi Germany.

        The book does not draw a new portrait of earnest citizen soldiers. Instead it describes a group of hardscrabble guys whom any respectable person would be loath to meet in a bar or dark alley. But they were an integral part of the U.S. war against Nazi Germany. A brawling bunch of no-goodniks whose only saving grace was that they inflicted more damage on the Germans than on MPs, the English countryside and their own officers, the Filthy 13 remain a legend within the ranks of the 101st Airborne.

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        5 out of 5 stars pathfinder on the loose.......2007-02-14

        I met the author at a paratrooper reunion,(the 26th infantry pathfinder platoon in 2006) and was amazed of how great a storyteller he was, he was a great featured speaker. But the fact that Jake is a natural storyteller shouldn't fool you, jake's adventures were quite real and even in the 1980's , my pathfinder unit was able to get away with some pretty wild antics as long as we did our mission well. This book is well worth buying or reading because it has the laid back style of jake himself. Men like jake helped us win that war and men like him are still around fighting and having adventures in todays airborne units as well. They make no apologies for killing anyone who is trying to kill their buddies regardless what anyone else thinks about it. The book is a unapologetic look at a wild trooper and his war and on that ground alone I would say buy it!

        2 out of 5 stars Good Parts, but mostly bad.......2006-03-24

        I just would like to add that the book was a real letdown for me. There were some really funny parts in the first half of the book, while the unit was in training but when the unit actually went into combat in Normandy the book really went down hill fast.

        3 out of 5 stars Very Impressive.......2006-02-22

        I just finshed reading the Filthy Thirteen by Richard Killblane and
        found it very interesting. I actually went to church with Jake McNiece when I lived in Ponca City, Oklahoma. He was a very interesting individual. I have the highest regard for his efforts during WWII. The writing of this book isn't the best and it was difficult to follow at times since it jumped from first person to third person. Over looking the writing style I couldn't help but be impressed and appreciative of what the men in battle had to endure.
        I would recommend this book if for nothing else than to get an upclose view of war.
        I also read some previous reviews stating they doubted the validity of Jakes escapades. As I stated before I personally know Jake and his escapades mentioned in this book although seem over the top are quite true.

        5 out of 5 stars No men are Saints, angels with vice.......2006-01-31

        First my excuses for my poor english. I'm Dutch.

        This book is somewhat diffent from other memoires. But the great power of this book is the individual story.
        I guess that for people who do not know european culture, geopraphy and history this will be a strange book. But I can follow the whereabouts off these men every step he writes them out. To (older)people in Holland these men were angels from the sky and after that heroes and normal men.


        Best Parts in the book.

        -Jump in Normandy. The psychological lonelyness that he discribes, the chaotic anarchy, determination, succes of failure, brillant. (unbelievable, never read it so honest, disobbeying orders and so forth)
        -Holland, operation market garden Disaster. (also read the road to berlin, by Megallis)
        -Best part, the enormous after-war vacüum.
        -In general the human discription of man needs in the 'wild'. Shelter, good food, a drink and.....

        Three drawbacks, the lightness which is used to talk about heavy dramatic scenes is 'strange'(but still natural)
        Futher a lot of detail is skipped. Last thing is that you never get feeling that death is all around, sometimes it feels like a walk over.
        But the graves are still here.

        OVERALL INIQUE DOCUMENT,




        Greetings drs.H.I.J.Versteegden

        5 out of 5 stars Jake McNiece.......2005-01-30

        is one of the genuine crazies in the 101st Airborne's family tree. I met him at the Toccoa, GA, reunion of the 506th PIR after I came back from Iraq and he was happy to sign my copy. Yes, the writing is crude, yes, Jake loves to tell a good story, but if you want a dry day by day account of the 506th's doings, sit down with Rendezvous with Destiny instead. One, Bob Sink wasn't quite as stuck-up as Dale Dye played him, and second, why do you think Jake never got promoted and spent half his time at Toccoa in the stockade? There's a reason the pic of the old stockade there at the camp is captioned "Jake McNiece's command post" in the county historical society literature, his antics have been a running joke in Division circles since 1943.

        I think it was the pics of the Mohawked, face-painted guys with the Thompsons when I was a real little kid that got me started on all this in the first place. Now I know the story behind it all, and I'm glad I met a genuine hero of an earlier time.
        The Making of a Paratrooper: Airborne Training and Combat in World War II (Modern War Studies)
        Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
        • The Paratrooper Experience in World War II: This Is It
        The Making of a Paratrooper: Airborne Training and Combat in World War II (Modern War Studies)
        Kurt Gabel
        Manufacturer: Univ Pr of Kansas
        ProductGroup: Book
        Binding: Hardcover

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        ASIN: 070060409X

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        5 out of 5 stars The Paratrooper Experience in World War II: This Is It.......2001-05-04

        It's really a shame this book is out of print, as it is just as good as the more famous Ambrose books. The reason "The Making of a Paratrooper" reads so well is that Kurt Gabel was a paratrooper and participant in everything he describes...something Ambrose can't claim. His is a light, easy style of prose that reads easily, yet conveys the emotions, both high and low, of war. Friends blown to pieces or shot in the head right next to you. Moments of hilarity and joy...or the abject misery of fighting in hellish conditions. It's all here, from the beginnings in the tough jump school--it's amazing how hard these men trained--to the bloody European battlefields. All I can say is, this book pulls you in and keeps you there in a way that few tomes do. It is well worth the purchase. I might also add that Dr. William Mitchell, a paratrooper in the same Airborne outfit as Kurt Gabel and who wrote the final chapter of "The Making of a Paratrooper," was my political science professor at the University of Oregon in Eugene. He still proudly wears his paratrooper beret.
        Airborne: A Combat History of American Airborne Forces.
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          Airborne: A Combat History of American Airborne Forces.
          Jr. E. M.: FLANAGAN
          Manufacturer: Presidio Prss Books, Ballant
          ProductGroup: Book
          Binding: Hardcover
          ASIN: B000UD2LEU

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