The Domino Effect (Doctor Who)
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  • Brutal world, brutal book
  • Reject This Effect
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The Domino Effect (Doctor Who)
David Bishop
Manufacturer: BBC Books
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Binding: Paperback

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Book Description

Within hours one of the Doctor's friends is caught in a deadly explosion, while another appears on television confessing to the murder of twelve people. The TARDIS is stolen by forces intent on learning its secrets. When the Doctor tries to investigate, his efforts are hampered by crippling chest pains. Someone is manipulating events to suppress humanity's development - but how and why? The trail leads to London where a cabal pushes the world ever closer to catastrophe. Who is the prisoner being held in the Tower of London? Could he or she hold the key to saving mankind? The Doctor must choose between saving his friends or saving Earth in the past, present and future. But the closer he gets to the truth, the worse his condition becomes...

Customer Reviews:

2 out of 5 stars Brutal world, brutal book.......2005-02-12

Another Doctor Who novel, another alternate universe? Sadly, this will become the norm, as the current storyline is *about* alternate universes. As begun in The Infinity Race and Time Zero, alternate universes are springing up all over the place. This just adds another burden to a story that takes place in a continuing series, as we have to be given a reason to care about any of the characters in it, as we know it's not going to "matter" to the story in general. Otherwise, it's just going through the motions. Sadly, Bishop fails in this, as I didn't care about *any* of the characters, sometimes not even the continuing ones.

It's hard to decide where to begin on The Domino Effect. Characterization takes a back seat to imagery in the book, with none of the incidental characters eliciting anything other than disgust or boredom from this reader. The bad guys are super bad, moustache-twirling evil minions (Hastings is the worst), and the good guys are sniveling dweebs (except Dee, who is a violent good guy, thus not necessarily twirling her moustache). Instead, we're given an almost brutal book. Hastings, the main character who interacts with Fitz, is just sadistic and nothing else (except when he turns into a sniveling dweeb). All of the scenes with Fitz consist mainly of beatings and torture in some fashion and that's about it. There's a point to Fitz's captivity, though he ultimately doesn't really do anything except introduce us to a character who becomes important elsewhere. But the beatings? They're overdone. The atmosphere of the world has the same brutality, and Bishop constantly lets us know how oppressive everything is, sometimes to a fault.

All of this is being done in the name of stopping progress. There is a nice confrontation at the end spelling everything out, identifying just what the purpose of the scenes taking place in the past (where various instances of potential technological advances are nipped in the bud) is and how they interact. However, this scene suddenly takes a sharp left turn into the realm of technobabble that really doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I'm still not sure what the other prisoner has to do with the whole thing. This technobabble goes on for pages at the end, trying to explain the whole plot, and worse: trying to set up subsequent books. This does not make me feel good.

Are there other silly aspects to this book? Of course there are. How about a policeman who's conveniently forgetful, who just happens to be the one policeman who runs into the Doctor and his cohorts. Gee, isn't it nice that he's so forgetful that he doesn't remember seeing the Doctor and Anji's pictures on the "Britain's Most Wanted" television show? Not to mention the briefing I'm sure he received just that morning! Nope, doesn't remember them. But gee, the Doctor sure looks familiar. Maybe he saw him on the telly! I'm sure Bishop thought this was a cute scene, but trust me, it wasn't. Not to mention the fact that the police force in this "timeline" is so brutally efficient that there's no way this person would be on the force. Whatever shred of my disbelief that was left suspended, the fraying rope finally snapped. This was absurd.

Even worse, however, is Anji's complete *stupidity* in not knowing that something was wrong when she first arrives. She blunders through the first 50 or so pages, weathering all the overt racism, the scorn heaped on her when she does things like ask where the ATM machines are and tries to pay with money that has the Queen's picture on it instead of the King's. Anji is not an idiot, but you certainly couldn't tell from the beginning of this book. The TARDIS crew has just been through an adventure where the universe starts splitting, and their last adventure was *in* an alternate universe. You'd think she'd twig to the fact that this wasn't her 2003. But no, she doesn't. She keeps forcing her way through. Gee, great portrayal of the real Edinburgh there, David, that she might actually believe that this *is* the real Edinburgh for any length of time whatsoever. There is one line that attempts to rationalize this (blaming it on being shaken by her first encounter with the racism), but it doesn't wash. Even shaken, she is smarter than that.

So what did Bishop get right? Not a whole lot in this case. The book begins with a flashback sequence for Anji, even though the Doctor & Fitz's scenes are told in the "present," but this only goes for about 50 pages and then disappears. It doesn't really work, but the rest of the prose is ok. Fitz is ok for what he does, though unless it has some ramifications for him in other books, it doesn't really work. He should lose some of his gung-ho attitude after his treatment in this book. If not, then Fitz becomes even less than useless. The Doctor doesn't really do a whole lot, but the final confrontation (before the technobabble virus hits) is quite well-done. Heather is also mildly interesting, though there turns out to be a reason for this that is, sadly, predictable. Until she turns into a pod person, she's actually an effective character, though that could be because she's the only true character in this book. There are multiple betrayals in this book, but none of them work because I didn't care about them at all.

Unless you're a completist, give this one a miss.

David Roy

2 out of 5 stars Reject This Effect.......2003-09-23

It has been quite a while since I've read a book that makes this many little mistakes. Sure, it does a few things right, and there are also a couple of major blunders. But what eventually killed the story for me was the number of times I would be reading a short portion, roll my eyes, and utter, "Oh, come on!" At the outline stage, THE DOMINO EFFECT could only have been an adequate, mediocre adventure. But in execution, this book feels like death by a thousand cuts. I should have known right off the bat that this would be a poor one. The back cover gives us: "[the Doctor's] efforts are hampered by crippling chest pains." Our brave, fearless hero is facing the dastardly powers of crippling chest pains? Help! What next? Fitz stuck in the TARDIS with a hangover and Anji battling a ferocious Bad Hair Day?

I'll get the positive stuff out of the way first. The pacing is quite good. I never felt bogged down or bored. This is an important consideration, since if the book had not been as swift, it would have turned from being merely bad into being totally excruciating. Of course, the downside for this sort of pace in this sort of book is that the narrative jumps merrily from mistake to blunder to miscue.

The biggest "little" mistake that the author makes is something that I find particularly annoying. It's when characters are required to do really stupid things in order for the plot to advance. This is lazy enough when it happens to a character who exists only within the confines of the story. But it's unforgivable when it happens to a regular, continuing character.

Anji has, through the EDAs so far, been portrayed as an intelligent and capable woman. Why is she so slow to realize that something is wrong with this United Kingdom? Why do all the anachronisms and inconsistencies fail to clue her in? Why is she acting so dumb? The fact that history is in a state of flux has been known since TIME ZERO. Even if part of the audience came to this book fresh, this is listed on the back cover. So, before the book has even begun, the reader already knows that this is not the "real" Earth and must wait for the character to catch up. Seriously, how can Anji not pick up on any of the obvious clues? Okay, I'm not expecting her to nip outside and check the back cover of the current book (at least, not in a novel not written by Steve Lyons), but she at least lived through the end of TIME ZERO, and the clues she's given are blindingly obvious. Each time an abnormality presented itself to her, I would say to myself, "Ah, okay, finally she'll figure it out now and we can move on to something else" -- only to have her obliviously continue on her way. Argh!

I can't think of another book that I can see falling apart and falling out of control quite like this one. There are so many awkward passages that it gives the impression of being written in a single weekend. One can just imagine the author racing through to meet the deadline, clumsily throwing shallow, one-dimensional characters and implausible plot-points down on the page simply to have something to hand in. (Not to suggest that this is what actually happened -- that's simply how it felt to this reader.) The book never seems to know what it is doing. For example, the first thirty pages are told in a combination of flashbacks, and a straightforward, third person narrative voice. I actually liked the story being told in this way; it kept things interesting. But the journal extracts end within the first fifty pages, and the book continues normally. Why the switch? Why were they there in the first place? I enjoyed the first-person passages when I was reading them, but when they vanished without replacement, they retroactively came across as merely a pointless gimmick. Authors pick their narrative voice with reason, but I couldn't figure out what point this served in this novel.

Nowhere is the rushed nature of the book more evident than at its conclusion. It's actually quite easy for me to discuss without providing spoilers because I simply didn't understand enough to describe in detail. I read the conclusion. I reread selected portions. I then read some sections a third time. It still didn't make any sense. This conclusion makes less sense the more one thinks about it. The book tells me that the uberstory situation is now worse than it was before, but I can't for the life of me figure out why. It's bad enough that the ending consists almost entirely of technobabble, but I really object to it consisting almost entirely of incomprehensible technobabble. Even if it had made sense (and I concede the possibility that there exists a simple explanation that I am simply too dimwitted to understand), it's terribly unfair to end a book like this with a solid chapter of scientific-sounding nonsense.

I was quite disappointed with this book. David Bishop's WHO KILLED KENNEDY? was massively entertaining, engrossing, and utterly unforgettable -- in other words, the complete opposite of THE DOMINO EFFECT. Oh, and can anyone explain to me what the "domino effect" is as far as what it has to do with this story? Anji mentioned it in passing, but what it actually means here remains a mystery to me. Outside of the confines of this story, I would have said that it has something to do with one event in history having effects and repercussions long after the event has completed. Yet, that doesn't seem to have anything to do with this story, which is more a series of constant interference trying to produce one single circumstance.

5 out of 5 stars Yes, he's done it! He's made a book!.......2003-09-17

What a surprise! A Doctor Who book that doesn't get all funny after page 150!

The Domino Effect succeeds brilliantly as a normal, modest Doctor Who book that does not try too hard. The result is a thoroughly enjoyable read, from one cover to the next.

Sure, sure we're dealing with parallel universes, quantum physics, Monsters from the Vortex, what have you. But guess what? I UNDERSTOOD THE WHOLE BOOK. Incredible! Unbelieveable!

The book is well-researched without being stuffy, the book has nice plots and twists, the book has a nice bit of suspense, the characters react believably under stress, it makes you think a bit about the world you're in, it even calls into question some things our pampered, computer-literate, wired, unrepressed western society revels in taking for granted.

It is, furthermore, topical in that it is linked to the psychology of terrorism and the issues surrounding its repression.

It falls just short of being a perfect candidate to initiate a friend to the world of Who; unfortunately some knowledge of the previous novels (Sabbath!) is helpful in understanding what's going on. Otherwise, it's just a great and at times thought-provoking read.
Health and the Domino Effect
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    Health and the Domino Effect
    Sharon R. Price
    Manufacturer: Thornton Publishing Inc.
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    Binding: Paperback
    ASIN: 1932344551

    Book Description

    Having personally experienced and recovered from a physical, emotional and spiritual health crisis, Dr. Sharon Price felt compelled to write a book on health and how to rebuild it. You're either building health or you're building disease. How does The Domino Effect relate? In her book, Dr. Sharon Price shows you how to line up your body to win.

    If you feel like trying to get healthy is a little overwhelming, this is the book for you. It's a book for the beginner or for someone who is well on their way to a healthier lifestyle.

    You will learn step by step how to lay the essential foundation and building blocks for health and realize simple proactive approaches to vibrant health. You will also discover clues as to why you experience certain conditions, how to get to the root cause, and then create a plan for recovery.
    The Domino Effect (Harlequin Blaze)
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      The Domino Effect (Harlequin Blaze)
      Julie Elizabeth Leto
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      Consuela Travis and The Domino Effect
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      • Move over, Atticus Finch!
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      A novel about the clash between the practice of law and the practice of medicine.

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      5 out of 5 stars Move over, Atticus Finch!.......2007-06-04

      Even if I didn't have the good fortune of knowing Barbara Kaster as "Aunt B," I still would have enjoyed this fantastic book. I was immediately engaged in the story and had a hard time putting it down. Consuela Travis is the story's noble protagonist who proves not only to be a brutally honest, highly moral attorney, but also a tireless crusader for both friendship and justice. I hope there is more of Consuela Travis to come, for she is an inspiring character. Kudos to Aunt B for this brilliant, well-crafted effort. You would never know that this is her first novel. We want more!!

      5 out of 5 stars A real page turner.......2007-05-01

      enjoyed the author's fast moving plot that reveals an intricate knowledge of the legal and medical worlds; a wonderfui read
      Domino Effect
      Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
      • Straight forward- Written to be understood by every Manager
      Domino Effect
      Jr.-Davi Vlcek , and Davi Vlcek Jr
      Manufacturer: McGraw-Hill
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      5 out of 5 stars Straight forward- Written to be understood by every Manager.......1996-11-25

      Simple guide to building or managing a business! It's written for everyone to understand- no complicated theory's or hard to understand concepts. Actions can be put to use immediately. Written by the person who built the most profitable division of Dominos Pizza at $600,000,000 in sales.
      The Domino Effect: Dominate the Marketplace:  New Product & Business Development
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        The Domino Effect: Dominate the Marketplace: New Product & Business Development
        Stephen, M. Rosen
        Manufacturer: AuthorHouse
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        ASIN: 1434339866

        Book Description

        How many times have you thought about introducing a new product into the marketplace, and as you thought about it, you realized that you have a great idea, but aren't sure how to make it a reality? Do you need to generate more revenue and more profit for your company but aren't sure the best way to move forward? Maybe you've introduced new products to the marketplace and it hasn't gone as well as you had hoped, maybe you've even "failed"? Maybe your competition is getting just a little too close to your market share or you want more of theirs? There are some basic strategies that can help you dominate. And they're all in this book.
        The Domino Effect: Quotes, Quips and Common Sense For Business and Life
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        • Great Read, Simple to Understand, Easy to Implement
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        The Domino Effect is a structured, strategic, organized method to gain control of "out of control" or future issues, tasks, or projects. The basic concept is to line up dominoes or plan activities strategically to accomplish your goals. The Domino Effect is not "fortune" telling, it's "future" telling, it's not about reading "palms", it's about reading and writing "plans", and it's not allowing others to suggest your future, it's you taking control of your own future. It's about setting up a plan, and more importantly action steps (dominoes) to accomplish your plan.

        Customer Reviews:

        5 out of 5 stars Great Read, Simple to Understand, Easy to Implement.......2007-05-05

        What a book! For the professional or the person who wants to take their career, company, or lives to the next level of excellence. Great read no matter what you do for a living. One of the best books out there.
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          Binding: Hardcover
          ASIN: 097555171X
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              How Long, O Lord?: Reflections on Suffering and Evil
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              • Comforting and Helpful For All Who Read
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              • Best treatment I've seen on evil and suffering
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              How Long, O Lord?: Reflections on Suffering and Evil
              D. A. Carson
              Manufacturer: Baker Academic
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              This clear and accessible treatment of key biblical themes related to human suffering and evil is written by one of the most respected evangelical biblical scholars alive today. Carson brings together a close, careful exposition of key biblical passages with helpful pastoral applications. The second edition has been updated throughout.

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              5 out of 5 stars Comforting and Helpful For All Who Read.......2007-03-03

              D.A Carson says that this is not meant to be a philosophical study of the problem of evil, and that it is just a collection of reflections for believers in Christ. Yet after reading the book, I felt that it was something that could benefit everyone. Carson begins by giving some stories from his own experience illustrating the problem of evil in our world. Then he proceeds in the succeeding chapters to discuss what the scripture says about evil and how we can experience the comfort of God in times of grief.

              He stops along the way to critique theologies which do not leave room for a theology of evil (John Wimber's theology), and he points people again and again to scripture. Well done!

              5 out of 5 stars O Lord at Last.......2005-02-12

              As other reviewers have noted this book is aimed at Christians and not for those looking for immediate relief from some trial in their lives. However, there is very much to commend Carson's work for those beginning to explore suffering, free will, and God's sovereignty and their many links to Christian doctrine and experience. While Carson says at one point that we may wish to skip Chapter 11 on the Mystery of Providence, I think it is worth the price alone.

              There were 3 or 4 places in the book where he ended a section with a statement that I thought needed another line or two of explanation, but these are minor issues of style correctable for me by rereading a paragraph. Carson references Basinger & Basinger's Predestination & Free Will and Carson's comments provide a useful supplement and corrective for some of the views in Basinger. For those who quickly run to some sort of theodicy, Carson makes us pause and consider how great a God we do have. Before jumping on the process or open theological train, please read this. Overall this is a very readable yet challenging coverage of the subject.

              5 out of 5 stars Outstanding for what it attempts to do.......2002-09-29

              D.A. Carson is one of the more respected theologians of our day. He is one of the few evangelical scholars who has written extensively both on Biblical exegetical and interpretational matters, and on matters of contemporary worldviews and issues. Many evangelical scholars tend to focus on one or the other, but Carson is highly respected in both areas. This work deals with perhaps the most vexing question that has ever faced the human race, the question of suffering. For what Carson is trying to accomplish here, I think he does an exquisite job.

              As Carson indicates at the start of this book, the book is not an attempt to provide a full orbed theodicy that will cover all aspects of suffering or the problem of evil. This is not a book that is devoted to exploring the philosophical origins of evil and how such origins reflect on the existence or nature of God. Carson does devote about two chapters to this, but it is not the thrust of the book, as Carson properly points out at the start. This is a book written to Christians mainly as 'preventive medicine' as Carson describes it.

              It appears that what Carson is trying to achieve here is to provide the reader with a rather comprehensive analysis of what Scripture says about suffering, and equally important, what Scripture does not say. I thought that a big strength of the book was Carson's insistence on not going beyond the Biblical text to find more palatable or easy answers to such vexing questions that might make people feel better, but are not especially faithful to Scripture. Carson's mission appears to be to lay out for the reader what the Bible says and acknowledging the tensions that the Bible gives us on many aspects of the issue of suffering without using these tensions as an excuse to throw up his hands and declare incoherency. It is here that Carson's supreme expertise in Biblical exegesis becomes evident, and it is a source of comfort to the reader.

              I was very impressed with Carson's willingness to repeatedly tackle tough questions and not shying away from difficult Scripture passages. As he says numerous times, the book is not necessarily offering full orbed answers to every tough question, but it is offering very sound and compelling thoughts where Scripture is clear, and acknowledging a certain amount of mystery over what is not clear, and clearly defining both.

              Overall, I felt that the book was extremely balanced and thoroughly grounded in Scripture. This is a book that in my view, properly refrains from the extremes of offering overly simplistic answers that pretend to comprehensively deal with this topic, as well as the extreme of overly appealing to divine mystery as a way of dodging the tough questions. This is the best book I've read on the problem of evil that is something other than a philosophical defense. This is an exegetical defense, and a very good one.

              Lastly, it needs to be pointed out who ought to read this book. I don't think an unbeliever will get much out of this, as Carson states. It is a book written by a Christian, for Christians who are not looking to use the issue of suffering to debate the existence of God. Likewise, I don't think it's the first book that Christians who are in the grips of suffering should pick up and read either. As Carson states, this is not a book that's really meant to comfort someone who is in the grips of suffering, but rather a book that is meant to provide a Christian foundation for suffering BEFORE the suffering comes so that Christians will have a better basis for coming to grips with it. Although I do think that those who are in the grips of suffering would profit from this book, I think the main audience for this book are Christians who are looking for a Biblical foundation for suffering. I also think that pastors and lay leaders would also greatly profit from this book since I thought there were a number of outstanding insights geared towards those Christians who are called to minister to those who are enduring suffering. It should also be pointed out that because the book was written 10 years ago, some of the discourse on AIDS is outdated and should be taken cautiously.

              An outstanding book for what it deals with.

              5 out of 5 stars Best treatment I've seen on evil and suffering.......2002-07-10

              Carson presents a biblical theology of suffering, though he doesn't put it that way. He looks at the broad sweep of scripture, seeing the bearing it has on the various problems about evil and suffering. He starts with daily life concerns and how we should view our lives, ourselves, God, other people, and what happens to us. He paints the proper perspective gleaned from the whole portrait of God and his actions throughout history across the scriptures and then warns of some serious dangers we might easily fall into when arriving at conclusions or when dealing with hard times.

              The main focus of the book points to themes throughout scripture. The heart of the book has a chapter on each of the following topics - sin, the various kinds of suffering and evil, God's suffering people, hell and holy war, sickness and death, the final restoration we're moving toward, suffering in the book of Job, and God's own suffering. The final chapters look in depth at the mystery involved in our responsibility in a world in which God is absolutely sovereign (in which Carson defends, biblically, compatibilism about God's sovereignty and our responsibility for what we do), the comfort we can derive from God's sovereign care, and some pastoral reflections about how to live our lives in response to the biblical portrait he's examined. He concludes with a 10-page appendix on AIDS.

              This is by far the most balanced book I've read on the topic. Most philosophers focus on the problem of evil in intellectual debates and end up saying little of relevance. Most non-philosophers look at how we should respond to suffering in our lives but often in terms of inner psychological matters, as if our own inner problems are the real focus. Alternatively, the popular books could be more or less lists of practical things to do, not always helpful in times of difficulty.

              Carson gives full treatment to both kinds of problems but is less concerned with debating intellectual arguments, analyzing psychological issues, or listing off which ten things we need to change in our behavior. His focus is on God has revealed himself and acted in history, treating the biblical text as fundamental.

              This is a balanced Christian focus, and other sorts of things can come out of that. In the end he does give practical suggestions, many requiring a change or development in understanding God and his carrying out his purposes in history. He says plenty to apply to the philosopher's problems of evil. He also deals in depth with hell, sin, human responsibility, and God's own suffering, crucial points in a full Christian response to that sort of problem, far more significant a package than either the standard "free will defense" that fits little with scripture or the Leibnizian "best of all possible worlds" response that doesn't fill in any details of what's so good about it.

              Carson's treatment of hell, sin, human responsibility, and God's suffering is the place for philosophers to look. Hell isn't the place of torture for a capricious being to get his jollies from people's suffering, nor does it simply keep people from heaven. God's justice is satisfied one way or another (by Christ or by hell), and that's significant. Evil isn't permanent. It gets dealt with by a loving, caring God who won't stand for continuing evil. God's plan of salvation allows evil to continue temporarily so that greater numbers of people might enter salvation by turning to God for help out of sin's ensnarement. A holy God couldn't allow evil in his presence, yet a good God couldn't stand by and do nothing, so he entered history as Jesus Christ to deal with the problem, suffering himself in a greater way than any others would ever suffer, not because of the suffering on the cross, great though that is, but because of his total separation from his Father, something no mere human being has even done yet, since the final judgment is still to come.

              Hell is necessary for those who won't admit their rebellion against God and the necessity of his action to solve the problem, since such people are resistant to God to the end. There's no place for them in the restored community of perfection. But it's not so much a place of torment directed against them as the torment within them due to increasing rebellion against God and good. It's what rejecting God points toward, and every human being (besides Jesus) deserves it, but God saves and restores those who follow him. This is the Christian gospel and not new to those who absorb biblical teaching, but its relevance for the problem of evil is often passed over.

              If God has suffered more than anyone else, that says something. If hell is the logical result of human rebellion against God (what human attitudes against God would logically lead to) and simultaneously preserves God's people from evil, that's significant. God's plan has huge ramifications if there's a goal to history. Human responsibility for sin explains evil in ways that don't interfere with God's sovereign plan for history, contrary to the standard philosophical approach to these matters. This approach is refreshing after reading lots of "free will defense" responses that make free will primary and necessary, something undermined somewhat by Carson's approach, since God's plan is the key element in all this.

              Carson also does more for the human person asking these questions than does abstract statements such as the traditional "best of all possible worlds" response by G.W. Leibniz. Leibniz may be right in some significant sense if God's overarching plan took into account the other ways things could have gone. However, it's terribly misleading, as demonstrated by Voltaire's drastic misunderstanding of Leibniz in his parody Dr. Pangloss (in Candide). What Leibniz intended, and any way Leibniz would be right, has to involve these other aspects emphasized by Carson, and it has to start from where he starts - these key themes in scripture.

              5 out of 5 stars COMPATIBILISM IS THE KEY TO EXEGESIS OF MYSTERY.......2000-08-06

              If you seek a different approach to the topic of Sovereignty vs. Agency, Good God vs. Evil Reality, you've come to the right place. Carson's overarching theme is what he calls COMPATIBILITY. When dealing with texts seemingly mutually exclusive,using Scripture's own suppositions yields mutual compatible sense where texts complement each other, not compete or contradict. Mystery in Scripture is not meant to be resolved, but wise exegetes try to elucidate the unknowns that most faithfully and plausibly address counterarguments. When dealing with the Infinite God, multiple truths can co-exist simultaneously on different planes (God's and ours). Good vs. Evil, among other Biblical mysteries, cannot be fully, finitely comprehended, let alone synthesized and exhaustively communicated theologically, logically, metaphysically, philosophically or otherwise. These are merely components of the Biblical 'givens' Scripture's authors teach or assume. The interpreter's challenge is to locate the mystery in the right place, define terms, remain anchored to Scripture's own parameters and givens, ask the right preliminary questions before positing answers and avoid eliminating the tension in mystery between planes (God's and ours) so as not to do violence to either plane. Beware the all too intuitive and natural eisegetical approach that makes absolute, epistemologically precise, phenomenologically rigid, logically/literally wooden reading of marshalled texts the sine qua non of pre-conceived theological systems. This leads to massive misreadings of Scripture which are 'too clever by half'which artificially justify unvalidated a priori's that weave a grid unwittingly filtering out complementary data. Let balanced exegesis taking all compatible(surface tension, depth resolution) texts fairly and plainly and in unison 'stand in their naked power and function without endless reductionism'. Amen!
              How Long O Lord?: Christian, Jewish, and Muslim Voices from the Ground and Visitons for the Future in Israel/Palestine
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              How Long O Lord?: Christian, Jewish, and Muslim Voices from the Ground and Visitons for the Future in Israel/Palestine
              Maurine Tobin
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              In this collection of essays, the authors have brought together a group of peacemakers -- Christian, Jewish, and Muslim -- whose religious convictions compel them towards peace in Israel/Palestine.

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              5 out of 5 stars This tells it like it is.......2004-01-05

              As a frequent traveller to Israel/Palestine and having met most of the authors of the essays collected, I am amazed at how well each from each writer's perspective have represented reality as I have come to understand the reality on the ground.

              Israel's safety and a safe place for Jews is of prime importance. But safety cannot come without an equal passion for justice. Pithily put: Sow Justice, Reap Security.

              It is important that the voices represented in this collection be heard. The daily headlines tell part of the story. This is another part and one that makes the story more complete.

              1 out of 5 stars a one-sided look at a many-sided region.......2003-12-02

              This book does indeed include essays written by Jews, Christians and Muslims. Do not, however, assume from this that it is in any sense objective or that it examines the Middle East from all sides. This is a book in which Jewish, Christian and Muslim critics of Israel all have a chance to write about everything that they see as being wrong with Israel. No one who has been following the Middle East is in any danger of learning anything new. Those who are new to the issue are, however, likely to be puzzled by the divergence between the picture presented here and reality as we know it.

              It is, after all, in the territory controlled by the Palestinian Authority that editors of opposition newspapers are kneecapped, their printing presses smashed. It is in the PA-controlled territories that people are are tried and sentenced without benefit of counsel and that individuals suspected of sympathy with Israel are routinely murdered by vigilante gangs. It is in Palestinian schools that children are taught to become suicide bombers. And Palestinian television that broadcasts racist canards about Jews.

              Meanwhile it is in Israel that Muslims vote and elect representatives to Parliament. In Israel that Muslim women are equal to Muslim men before the courts.

              In Israel there is a free press, an independent judiciary, and a school system that makes real efforts to teach tolerance.

              That said, Israel is no more perfect thatn any other country. If you want to see all of the warts, this is your book.

              Do be careful, however, about accepting the facts as presented. Whole sections would have to be shelved in the fiction section of an honest library.

              5 out of 5 stars An unforgettable and highly recommended compilation.......2003-09-15

              Collaboratively compiled by Maurine and Robert Tobin, How Long O Lord? is an impressive anthology of writings by Christians, Jews, and Muslims concerning the need for a just peace in Israel and Palestine. Confronting commonly held assumptions, examining all sides of the issues and attempting to untangle a complex web of conflict, power struggle, and the desperate search for hope, How Long O Lord? an unforgettable and highly recommended compilation offering understanding into a deadly, enduring, multifaceted conflict.
              I'm Lonely, Lord, How Long: Meditations on the Psalms
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                    Colin Ed. Wilde
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                      How Long, O Lord: Stories of Twentieth Century Korea
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                      How Long, O Lord: Stories of Twentieth Century Korea
                      George E. Ogle
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                      5 out of 5 stars Faith in Action: Well-written, realistic fiction of Korea.......2004-02-27

                      George E. Ogle has lived in Korea, has written scholarly books on Koreans, and was deported from the country by Park Chung Hee's government. The deportation occurred in 1974, when Ogle dared to speak up for a group of innocent men that Park's regime had framed as Communist revolutionaries, men who were eventually executed. Ogle's recollection of his deportation and his reflection on other tumultuous events of twetntieth-century Korea constitute the basis of this book. The book's short stories are beautifully written, and are sensitive yet realistic. They betray no maudlin confessionalism; rather, they bear witness to human ability to trust, hope, and love in the most desperate of circumstances.

                      3 out of 5 stars I'm glad this is fiction.......2003-06-28

                      If one read this book without first reading the foreward and preface,it may not be evident these accounts as presented are fictional. Rev. Ogle very openly states his ideology in these writings. Most references to the "military dictatorship" of South Korea are accompanied with descriptions of evil, wicked, despicable horrors perpetrated upon certain of the "innocent" population. On the other hand the North Korean regime may be addressed as only bad or mean. He does attempt to interweave Christian positions on social justice into these stories, however, with the obvious direction of pro-North Korean sympathies. The most positive portion comes at the very end, with hints of reunification based upon the works of the Church.
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