History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)

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Recorded history is a finely-woven magic fabric of intricate lies about events predating the sixteenth century. There is not a single piece of evidence that can be reliably and independently traced back earlier than the eleventh century. This book details events that are substantiated by hard facts and logic, and validated by new astronomical research and statistical analysis of ancient sources.

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Calculations are only as good as your numbers.......2007-08-03

Yes, we can all agree that mainstream history is nearly 100% BS due to politics, economics, ego, problems with dating techniques, and various conspiracies. Agreed. But, I've been researching the distinct possibility that human history (in terms of civilizations) are much more ancient than we've been told, so coming across this book was very interesting to me. I wondered how Fomenko could be wrong (if at all) because he is very persuasive in his presentations. Then it dawned on me. If at previous times in prehistory, due to the various catastrophies that are well documented (comets, asteroids, planetary disruptions, plasma discharge, pole reversals, etc) the Earth was in a different position in relation to the sun, different tilt on its axis, different orbit, different rotation (in terms of velocity and DIRECTION), and the continents were in different positions, then would this not cause the ancients to see the sky (constellations) differently? In other words, is Fomenko making erronious assumptions about the physics of the Earth in pre-history, which then corrupt his data with regards to dating the relevant astrology? The last event to seriously disrupt our planet occured roughly 3500 years ago, according to other good researchers, so is it possible Fomenko has been confused by this? The vastly different physics of our planet in the not so distant past may explain this confusion, which is not to say the "mainstream" version of history is correct; on the contrary. I am not an expert in these fields, but wanted to see if this idea could spark discussion.

Pants on fire?.......2007-07-19

Will people ever read before spamming? Yes, Jesuits could not rewrite world history alone, they had help. Anyway, Dr Prof Acad A.Fomenko does not point to jesuits as the driving force of world wide history manipulation in published volumes 1,2,3;, actually he barely mentions the poor devils. Check it with 'Search inside' feature, please. China is rarely mentioned either, in fact, Dr Fomenko is completely eurocentric. Right, his theory contradicts all mainstream schools of history, because in their actual state they are all built on blatantly erroneus chronology. You don't need a mysterious cabal (conspiracy) to falsify history, the falsification is its modus operandi. It is inherent to history(ians) to falsify (distort) events, as it is inherent to humans to boast as it is inherent to power (authority) to legimize itself by referrring to glorious past made to its own order. Dr Prof Fomenko and team have identified scores of instances of such manipulation in Russian, European, etc.. history, and delivered valid statistical proof thereof. His own 'reconstruction' is completely another story. Forget c14 as a valid method of dating. W.Libby has initially discovered a brilliant method of INDEPENDENT dating. Too bad, c14 method has become a joke after a forced marrige with dendrochronology with consensual chronological scale inbuilt. Radiocarbon method can't stand blind tests, but is so very productive as a rubberstamp.

Accepted History & Chronology Must Be Changed. .......2007-04-09

There is no doubt that history as most know it is a sham, & institution's version of History both University & Church is fradulent & inaccurate. Everything was established with an agenda, The real "Dark Ages" are now when we have access to incredible amounts of information past authorities & more important 'common folk' didn't have but our institutions & educators are slow to evolve because of what has ignorantly & arrogantly been taught for too long. This is on many subjects not just Chronology.

For anyone to question "Why would a Mathematician have anything credible to say of History?" The answer is from Dr. Fomenko's preface in the book: "It would be worthwhile to remind the reader that in the XVI-XVII century Chronology was considered to be a subdivision of Mathematics." These volumes could possibly be some of the most important works to date & should be read by everyone with an interest in History, especially professors & educators who have a duty to the public. I have read both books & must say that 'Chronology 1' has some very eye opening & revolutionary information. Even if these volumes are part true the implications are profound & opens the doors to further investigations & questions which must be done. I speak several different lanquages & must say the logic Dr. Fomenko uses with "inflection" of words & words being read from left to right in one region & right to left in another then written backwards, the removal of vowels & get down to basics of words, or different cities & locations having the same name etc. is correct. Vowel usage has always been optional & varied, actually complicating linquistics & study. The first thing one has to understand is that words never had a fixed spelling in history like we do now, the spelling of words was mutable & regional, as well as names & titles of people were vast, varied & changed, NOTHING WAS FIXED or understood linear. Matters of Life & Death as well as financial profiteering yesterday & today were & are made with ignorant, illogical & conspiratorial views of history & reality, it's time people get closer to the Truth & society collectively grow up.

Very Interesting.......2007-03-07

It is a good proposal and I believe it will mature into something even better in the future. I think it deserves to be read.

History as Science Fiction.......2007-01-10

Anatoly Fomenko has written a very intriguing book, full of pictures, charts, and computer 'proof' of his thesis: backwards of AD900 we don't really know what happened or when. Between AD900 and AD1600 there is more certainty, but there is still a lot of fuzzy ground, and things don't get reliable until we get past the 1600's where the printing press made it very difficult for the perpetrators of this timeline manipulation to change anything that had been committed to print. The Dark Ages did not happen. Books were burned for a reason. One organization has doubled the actual length of its existence by expanding the real chronology. Read why.

I had always wondered why Christ died about AD33 and yet men waited until the 11th century to form the Knights Templar, the Cathars, etc and go after the Holy Land by force. Why the 1000 year gap? Turns out there wasn't more than a 10-12 year gap and he proves it using astronomy. This also implies that the planet is not as old as we have been told, and current Christian and other creationist scientists are already championing that idea without being aware of Fomenko's book. The two groups, creationist scientists and the Russian mathematical analysts corroborate each other. Fascinating.

Of course, all this flies in the face of what we have been told traditionally is the 'proper' chronology of western civilization, and most readers will experience 'cognitive dissonance' in reading this book. It means that our history going backwards from AD1600 becomes progressively more incorrect and unreliable until it cannot be trusted at all... in the space of 700-800 years.

Naturally, the curious, open-minded reader will want to know WHO did this, WHY, and did any of the events we think of as really ancient ever happen?
Dr. Fomenko is a respected scientist/mathematician at Moscow State University who has already answered these questions to the satisfaction of his initially skeptical colleagues. Most of them are now believers, a few still refuse to believe (the usual diehards), and of course the western press has ignored Fomenko's work -- for obvious reasons when you read the book. The ones who perpetrated this chronology ruse have a lot to answer for. They are still with us. That's why this book is a well-kept secret.

I gave the book a 4-star rating because I was unable to check out some of his claims; those I checked were as he said. But if even 1/3 of his claims are true, this punches a big hole in what we think is our history, the meaning of western civilization, our educational process (for repeating the ruse as gospel), and the trustworthiness of the organization that perpetrated this ruse, well-intentioned or not.

This book relates to current research into a Young Earth paradigm, to John Keel's discoveries about our planet, and Fr Malachi Martin's insights (in his now out-of-print books). We are indeed sheep who are manipulated and kept ignorant -- for a reason. While knowing what these men have to say may be the "booby prize" (as in: 'what can you do with this knowledge?'), it will provide interesting reading. Didn't someone say: "...and the Truth will set you free."?? For you to judge if this book contains the truth.

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Ah, the poor Irish
Great idea, good book.
Steven Barnes establishes himself.....
If CHarles Murrary wrote these books
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Lion's Blood
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In the year 1863, a primitive village is raided, the men killed, and the women and children captured. The survivors find themselves chained in the dark, filthy hold of a ship crossing the ocean to the New World, where they are sold into slavery. The powerful master of a vast Southern plantation purchases the 11-year-old Irish lad Aidan O'Dere. Yes, you read that right--in this alternate America, the South was colonized by black Africans, and the North by Vikings, who sell abducted Celts and Franks to the Southerners. Through his brilliant inversion of our history, author Steven Barnes examines the complex evils of slavery in a new light with Lion's Blood, an intelligent and exciting novel of freedom and bondage, battle and intrigue, sex and love, set in an America threatened by total war as Aztecs, Zulus, Moors, and whites clash.

A Hugo Award and Cable Ace Award nominee, Steven Barnes has written 15 novels and 15 teleplays. --Cynthia Ward

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Ah, the poor Irish.......2007-04-21

It seems the poor Irish can't catch a break, even in an alternate universe.

Great idea, good book........2006-08-07

I felt the plot was more along the lines of young adult fiction. Good reading for high school and college students.
Speaking color-blindedly, there was really nothing new here: two young boys finding their way in the world that is in the end very much the same, only colored differently. It was a good story, lushly told with some interesting tidbits of islamic culture thrown in. The Vikings and Aztecs were a very interesting part about the novel. I wish the author would write a story about each of them.

Steven Barnes establishes himself............2006-07-03

If there was any question of Steven Barnes ability to write a great novel on his own, those questions are answered by LION'S BLOOD. In this powerful work of speculative fiction, Steven Barnes creates an alternate history where Carthage destroyed Rome, and the New World has been settled by Islam. With Europe still in a tribal state (this book takes place in the mid-1800's) the conquering Islamic states have taken to the practice of importing white slaves from the barbaric (to them) European nations. One of these slaves is young Aidan O'Dere who witnesses his family torn apart and everything he knows and holds dear is ripped apart as he becomes a slave on the plantation of Dar Kush.

Through strong character development and the complexity of their social interactions, Steven Barnes has crafted an absolute winner of a novel. Combined with tremendous research and knowledge of the characters social and religous beliefs and values, makes this a book of depth and resonance that will have you turning pages and stay with you long after you have finsished it. Despite what the one reviewer stated about Steven Barnes just reversing the roles of slaves and owners, the truth is that this novel is a wonderful example about the nature of the human condition and that as Harry Turtledove states it "people are people, and chance, not skin color, makes them what and who they are." In our post 9/11 society perhaps we need to remember this a little more often. If you have the oppurtunity to read this book - don't miss it. Highest recommendation.

If CHarles Murrary wrote these books.......2006-02-18

If Charles Murray wrote 'Lion's Blood' and its sequel he might have made Bilalistan more like Poul Anderson's Ythri or the fliers in 'A Stone from Heaven'; a bunch of smart touchy individualists. Mechanical advances resulting from a lot of quarrelsome lone tinkers, not one centralized effort. I'd have liked to see more about the dirigibles in the first book, too.
That's what Steve Sailer's idea of Charles Murray might have written. If Steven Barnes loathesome, politically-motivated reductionist had slimed his trail across some innocent word keyboard-
Different story.
What would Charles Murray's idea of Charles Murray have written?

Nice but not incredible.......2006-01-05

The prose is lush, some of the characters have a good amount of depth, but there's something missing. It seems like your standard novel about slavery, only the slaveholders are Black Muslims instead of White Christians. There are a few departures-- like the battle scenes, but when it comes down to explicating the history (especially when it comes to the difference between the Norse slavers and the Celtic slaves, or the Jews, etc) the work falls flat.

As a story about two boys ripped apart by the societal forces during the time of slavery it works just fine, and is, yes, a magnificent example of a well-done story in the genre. The problem is that all the author has done is switch the color of the protagonists' skins, without giving us any insight on how the religious/cultural differences could change that dynamic (which is, in essence, what I read alternate histories for.)

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Brilliant, and futile

Bringing preliterate thinking into the modern era...

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The Marriage of Sense and Soul: Integrating Science and Religion
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There is arguably no more critical and pressing topic than the relation of science and religion in the modern world. Science has given us the methods for discovering truth, while religion remains the single greatest force for generating meaning. Yet the two are seen as mutually exclusive, with wrenching consequences for humanity. In The Marriage of Sense and Soul, one of today's most important philosophers brilliantly articulates how we might begin to think about science and religion in ways that allow for their reconciliation and union, on terms that will be acceptable to both camps.
Ken Wilber is widely acclaimed as the foremost thinker in integrating Western psychology and the Eastern spiritual traditions. His many books have reached across disciplines and synthesized the teachings of religion, psychology, physics, mysticism, sociology, and anthropology, earning him a devoted international following. The Marriage of Sense and Soul is his most accessible work yet, aimed at guiding a general audience to the mutual accord between the spiritual, subjective world of ancient wisdom and the objective, empirical world of modern knowledge.
Wilber clearly and succinctly explores the schism between science and religion, and the impact of this "philosophical Cold War" on the fate of humanity. He systematically reviews previous attempts at integration, explaining why romantic, idealistic, and postmodern theories failed. And he demonstrates how science is compatible with certain deep features common to all of the world's major religious traditions. In pointing the way to a union between truth and meaning, Ken Wilber has created an elegant and accessible book that is breathtaking in its scope.

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Visonary!.......2007-07-09

I read Sex, Ecology, and Spirituality before reading this work. The Marriage of Sense and Soul is a reader friendly version of the larger volume. And Wilber is constructing - book by book - an Integral Map of the way forward. For those not well educated in the history of philosophy or the scientific paradigm, this book provides a clear presentation of Wilber's ideas.

While many who purport a postmodern world view attempt to critique Wilber negatively, Wilber nevertheless (in my humble opinion) is a rock. Meaning his integral philosophy is rock solid. I don't pretend to understand the depth of his insight. But his comprehensive erudition along with his sage like understanding of the scope of consciousness is forthright and compelling. If we are to survive as a species, Wilber's vast erudition - seeking as it does - to integrate the world's wisdom traditions, along with the scientific paradigm needs to function together in harmony. Without an integral world view, it seems likely that we are doomed as a species - at least as we function together in culture. In fact, the culture of the future might look very different from what it does today given the nightmare of climate change unfolding before our eyes and the continued abuse of environmental integrity by corporations not engaged in integral or sustainable practices.

Besides the obvious, Wilber is probably the brightest Cat on the planet and deserves a hearing if for no other reason than this.

Brilliant, and futile.......2007-05-10

This is in almost every respect an immensely wise and thought-provoking book, and one that deserves to be widely read no matter what your opinions about the appropriate relationship between science and religion. The book is an especially potent antidote for the silly, trumped-up Creationism vs. Evolution debates that plague us lately, fueled as they are by the drive for book sales and personal celebrity, and which really should be sanctioned by Vince McMahon and the WWE. This is a far more serious treatment of the science-religion divide, how it developed, and what can be done about it. That it culminates in a pipe dream is forgivable given the complexity of the topic, especially since the only realistic solution -- "epistemological pluralism" -- is described along the way; the reader need only pretend that Wilber landed there, rather than where, unfortunately, he finally does land.

Ken Wilber tries to show the way to the "integration" of science and religion, but it's not clear who he thinks is demanding that. A more realistic goal is for the kind of rapprochement between those two realms that would allow each to serve its own functions in its own sphere without interference from the other. Religion has no standing to make claims about how the natural world works, and science has no standing when it comes to questions of morality and meaning. The trouble we see between science and religion comes from one or the other overstepping its bounds.

In fact, since there is little or no conflict between science and Eastern religions like Hinduism and Buddhism, it is inaccurate to suggest that there is a conflict between science and religion in general. What we have instead is a conflict between science and certain religions, especially literalist forms of Christianity and Islam. When Wilber finally sets out his suggested path for integrating science and religion it turns that the key is for those problematic religions to -- Voila! -- become more like Buddhism and Vedanta Hinduism.

But the idea that Christianity and Islam are going to transmute into versions of Eastern wisdom traditions is pure fantasy. For example, he wants a more "authentic" Christianity, one which would jettison dogmatic details like the Virgin Birth and the bodily Ascension of Christ. Hmmm. Wilber operates out of Boulder, and in places like that -- Santa Fe and Sedona come to mind -- there will be a certain level of acceptance for ideas like that. But Wilber would find a different reception if he tried to make that sale in Chattanooga or Dallas or Tallahassee; it is entertaining to imagine the response to a parallel call for a more authentic Islam in Cairo or Riyadh or Islamabad.

Wilber is obviously a very, very bright guy, and he's immensely well-read. His account of the dissociations of modernity and how they developed is extremely interesting and full of insights. His analysis of why Hegelian idealism failed is one I've never seen before and may well be right. His critique of radical Postmodernism is terrific. But having done a masterful job in making the diagnosis, we end up being handed an unnecessarily over-reaching prescription that is pure fantasy. It's not that what Wilber describes couldn't work if put into practice, it probably would work; but its chances of being put into practice are zero. The mirror image of what he wants would be for science to suddenly decide that its true mission and purpose is to glorify God by discovering the workings of His creation. That would also integrate science and religion, and it is also not going to happen. Mutually respected separate spheres is the only plausible solution to the problem of how science and religion are to coexist.

Bringing preliterate thinking into the modern era..........2005-02-17

is pointless, inadvisable, and ultimately impossible. Very good writing, though. This may be the most gripping book I've ever read that was completely wrong from beginning to end.

A great introduction to Wilber.......2004-10-09

Ken Wilber is quite possibly the most significant philosopher writing today. Yet his work is dense, academic, and difficult for those outside of academia or professional psychology to grasp.

With "The Marriage of Sense and Soul", Wilber writes a popular introduction to Integral thought, in which he outlines the basics of his philosophy- the "nest of being", interiors vs. exteriors, prerational/rational/transrational thinking, mystical states of consciousness, and the rest of the essentials of his philosophy. While there's still a lot of terminology to digest, and Wilber drops more than a few names that non-academics probably won't recognize, Wilber does manage to strip his philosophy down to a brief introduction that is far more elegant and feels like less of an abridgement than "A Brief History of Everything".

At the same time, I don't know if Wilber succeeds in pulling off the mission of the book- "Integrating Science and Religion." While Wilber does a fine job of defining science and the limits of science, his definition of religion throws out the very components of religion that are most relevant to the typical religious believer! He strips religion down to meditative contemplation, while rendering the other components of religion irrelevant to his model. Ultimately, his "integration" is only possible by redefining religion into his model. While Wilber's philosophy is powerful and coherent, (and hence I'm not ashamed to admit to being a "Wilberian") his explaining-away of religion makes the own purpose of his book impossible. You might as well ask Richard Dawkins (the famously atheistic evolutionary biologist) to write a book on the integration of science and religion- it would be just as unsatisfactory.

Despite this, however, the book does do an excellent job of presenting integral theory to a broader audience. As a companion volume, I'd recommend Robert Wright's "Nonzero" as another fine book on the integral vision.

Great & Accessible Intro to Wiber IV Integral Philosophy .......2004-08-19

Have you ever found a book that looked fairly interesting but completley blew you away instead? Where you finished the last page only to sit there in stunned silence thinking, "Holy...this is exactly what I've been looking for!" This was that book for me. After reading it the first time, I felt as if I should have discovered this slim volume in a dusty, darkened attic trunk like some long lost hidden treasure, rather than at a book store at O'Hare airport. It's the first book by Wilber I read, and since then I've devoured everything else of his I could get my hands on. Yes, it's that good.

'Sense & Soul' is a great place to take a quick dip in the deep blue ocean that is Wilber's Integral Philosophy. His grand idea is simple yet profound, and a Herculean undertaking: everybody's right (to a degree), so we'll gather the best of all knowledge, east and west, from both the past and today while discarding what doesn't work, and create something new and remarkable, an integral philosophy. The breadth and depth of his work to integrate the world's knowledge into a functional and coherent system is nothing short of staggering and delightful.

Wilber's vision expands and deepens while becoming more refined with each new book, and it is clear that what he is creating is a viable blueprint for a globally and spiritually aware future for this planet and it's inhabitants. 'Sense & Soul' is a beautifully clear glimpse of this vision. I can't recommend it highly enough.

From here I would move on to 'A Brief History Of Everything' and then perhaps tackle 'Sex, Ecology, Spirituality'. After that, you're on your own to cherry pick as you please.

The ideas contained within Ken Wilber's works are utterly transformative, but don't believe me, come see the future for yourself.

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