Gardens of the Moon : Book One of The Malazan Book of the Fallen (Malazan Book of the Fallen)
Average customer rating: 4 out of 5 stars
  • Excellent.
  • This is epic fantasy at its peak, don't miss this series
  • Exciting intro of what is shaping to be a great series
  • Totally utterly confused..
  • Reads like a overblown D&D game
Gardens of the Moon : Book One of The Malazan Book of the Fallen (Malazan Book of the Fallen)
Steven Erikson
ProductGroup: Book
Binding: Hardcover
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ASIN: B000E6UWE4

Book Description

The Malazan Empire simmers with discontent, bled dry by interminable warfare, bitter infighting and bloody confrontations. Even the imperial legions, long inured to the bloodshed, yearn for some respite. Yet Empress Laseen's rule remains absolute, enforced by her dread Claw assassins.For Sergeant Whiskeyjack and his squad of Bridgeburners, and for Tattersail, surviving cadre mage of the Second Legion, the aftermath of the siege of Pale should have been a time to mourn the many dead. But Darujhistan, last of the Free Cities of Genabackis, yet holds out. It is to this ancient citadel that Laseen turns her predatory gaze.However, it would appear that the Empire is not alone in this great game. Sinister, shadowbound forces are gathering as the gods themselves prepare to play their hand . . . Conceived and written on a panoramic scale, Gardens of the Moon is epic fantasy of the highest order--an enthralling adventure by an outstanding new voice.

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Excellent........2007-09-17

I just finished up "Gardens of the Moon" last night around 2:00am. I couldn't put the book down for about 4 hours, as anyone who has read this knows that the last 1/4 of the book grabs you, holds you, and doesn't let go. ;)

I've read many thousands of books in the scifi/fantasy genre over the last 30~ years and lately I've been stuck at trying to find a book that was a bit more "mature" than Eddings, Anthony, Jordan, etc.. and somehow, I ended up buying "Gardens of the Moon". I think that Stephen R. Donaldson wrote up a good review on the book/author and loving Donaldson as much as I do, I picked up this book.

I'm glad that I listened to my instincts (and that Donaldson wrote that review), because I got lucky enough to be pulled into Erikson's world. I am totally in love with his world, his characters, and the way that he writes. This is a very complex story and it's quite unlike most every other novel that I've read previous. As other people have noted, he doesn't hold your hand and he relies on your own intelligence to keep up with the fast pace of things in this world.

The way I see it, if you're pretty bright, you're going to catch onto the story, the characters, and the dense history of the world that is described to you in lush detail. I've been hoping to find a book that doesn't have to carry me through it as if I were an infant, but rather runs ahead of me so that I have to try and catch up, using my own faculties to learn and understand. I'm not much for the hand-holding philosophy; I've moved on and can figure things out on my own.

This book has everything that I've been looking for, so I am quite smitten with it. I guess that's why I picked up the rest of the books in this series today at lunch. I actually think the newest book comes out tomorrow, so I'd better get a move on and get to some hardcore reading. :)

I absolutely recommend this book without any reservation at all. From what I've read, the rest of the books are even better. I can't wait for work to be done so that I can go home and start on book #2.. ;)



4 out of 5 stars This is epic fantasy at its peak, don't miss this series.......2007-09-14

I stumbled upon Erikson while reading some reviews for RR Martin and thought I would try his writing. The Gardens of the Moon is a bit slow to start but once it starts rolling it is a great read. Of course it is the start of 10 books so it had a lot of ground to cover and lots of history to explain because Erikson's world is fantastic and the best world building I have ever read.

His world is rich and believable with long histories, cultures, people, gods and beings of all flavors. Without the fairytale style elves and dwarfs and other fantasy creatures we are all used to. He does draw on some of the races from typical of fantasy but he recreates them into a whole new form. There are others that are completely his invention such as the T'Lan Imass.

Currently I am on book 4 and each book has been very good and I look forward to the next 6 books.

Erikson really is understated in the fantasy market and that is just a shame because he is a master of the genre. If you like high/epic series fantasy then you need look no further then right here. It starts a little slow but it never lets up from there.

4 out of 5 stars Exciting intro of what is shaping to be a great series.......2007-09-13

I purchased this book as Eriksons work was likened to GRRM. Although Gardens of the Moon is not as great as game of thrones was, it still is one of the top fantasy novels to have recently come out. The characters are deep, the storyline intertwined, and the descriptions are unbelievable. While Erikson is not super similar to GRRM, he still creates a great world and is highly recommended for those searching for their next fantasy series to start.

3 out of 5 stars Totally utterly confused.........2007-08-19

Some people in the reviews seem to be able to get this book effortlessly but i keep asking myself "Huh?" throughout the entire book. Yeah I undertstand the main plot but none of the characters interest me enoguh to make me remeber who or what they are. I kept wondering if this was the first book in the series because erikson, imo, doesnt explain his world good enough in a debut novel to the reader. I kept wondeirng if i was missing information trhoughout the book... i dont know if ill read the next book or try to look for another book

2 out of 5 stars Reads like a overblown D&D game.......2007-07-16

After hearing comparisons to GRRM's series "A Song of Fire and Ice" I jumped on this book given I love military and fantasy settings. The only thing that comes close to GRRM in this book is length and an attempt at creating an interesting historical fantasy world. Too bad the author wrote a rather droll, generic fantasy adventure with cut out characters to introduce us.

The Battles I read were unexciting/confusing for a military novel involving an over-reliance on wizards who seem to function like artilery pieces, The magic used was also vague(what is "waves of magic"?) and everyone has apparently has access to "a lost spell for over 400 years" or "Powerful, rare skill of _____ that I can pull out in a jam". Heck, within the first 75 pages alone, one character is resurrected after dying not once, but twice! Of course, someone used a "spell that has been lost since _____"....apparently resurrection spells went out of style despite the ease in casting them. Characters were not only flat, generic, and loosely described, but were introduced at rapid speed.....the author helps by giving us a a few pages of character listings and one sentence description for them.....too bad it's like 50+ people of which many are unimportant. The biggest crime is that unlike most generic fantasy drivel, it parades around as if this is an epic series rivaling the best in the genre. Nothing is worse than an OK story expanded into an epic.

I suppose if you think every Dungeons and Dragons inspired novel is a decent read, you'd very much like this book. It's basically a well written generic fantasy story turned into an epic 10 book series. If your looking for a work of fantasy that is high quality and worthy of critical praise, look elsewhere.

One Perfect Rose (Fallen Angels)
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
  • A thought-provoking tearjerker!
  • And the curtain closes..............
  • Absolutely perfect!!
  • Great book!
  • Good Book
One Perfect Rose (Fallen Angels)
Mary Jo Putney
Manufacturer: Fawcett Gold Medal
ProductGroup: Book
Binding: Mass Market Paperback

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ASIN: 0449000184
Release Date: 1998-04-29

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Mary Jo Putney explores a sensitive, challenging subject with grace and poignancy in this story of a young duke who is told he has a fatal illness and struggles to come to terms with his imminent death ... only to be surprised by love. Stephen Kenyon, Duke of Ashburton, vowing to live fully every moment of his remaining days, sets off alone across the countryside of Regency England, feeling wonderfully liberated from his ducal duties, when he becomes caught up with the traveling Fitzgerald Theater Troupe. Soon he's treading the boards and falling in love with the acting family's cheerful, down-to-earth adopted daughter Rosalind. How Stephen and Rosalind embrace their love under such sad circumstances heightens the passion and power of their romance, while Putney skillfully avoids becoming maudlin ... and dutifully provides the requisite happy ending. Rosalind's matter-of-fact approach to life contrasts delightfully with her dramatic family's emotional excesses, while her parents' loving marriage provides a fun secondary romance.

Book Description

Stephen Kenyon, Duke of Ashburton, has always taken the duties of his rank seriously--until shocking news sends him running from his isolating world of wealth and privilege to roam the countryside as an ordinary man. When he meets the lovely Rosalind Jordan, a foundling who has grown into an enchanting, compassionate woman, she stirs the deepest desires of his heart. Yet how can Stephen declare his love when he is haunted by the knowledge that made him flee his old life? And how can Rosalind risk loving a man who fulfills her secret dreams but can never be hers?

Readers around the world cherish the novels of Mary Jo Putney for their rich historical settings, ingenious plots, and characters so real they jump from the page into your heart. Now the winner of two Romance Writers of America RITA awards and a Romantic Times Career Achievement Award sweeps us into the mesmerizing story of two unlikely lovers, thrown together by fate. . . .

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars A thought-provoking tearjerker!.......2006-09-05

This novel really made me wish like Stephen that i also had faith in God and some higher power. Like most young people i rarely do think about Death and life after death, just because it is too far away from me right now to be real. But what if i would have to die tomorrow? And i knew it. Wouldn't I wish there is more to life than we all see around us? Wouldn't I wish that when i die, it won't be THE END?
Stephen knew he was going to die and all these questions started inside him and made him wish he was religious and a beleiver like Rosalind, so that he would be sure that he would still be seeing his loved ones again after he died. Life and death both are so much easier to endure if you have faith.
Towards the end when Stephen was dying i cried quiet a few times which is rare for me.
This type of romance novel remind me why after reading more than thousand romances i still keep coming back to read more and more?
In the beginning i had a hard time getting into the story but from the time when Stephen told rosalind about his illness it became hard for me to put down.
Very good thought provoking romance with a surprise happy ending!

5 out of 5 stars And the curtain closes.....................2006-08-08

I feel like this is one of those series' that should go on and on forever, but in that special way it does.
Everyone of the fallen Angles and their honorary members do indeed have that happily ever after symbolism in the heart of every Mary Jo Putney fan of her legendary Fallen Angel series.
But why do I still feel a sense of wanting.....a thirst to go out and simply read everything this author has ever penned??? Because she is a great story teller that's why, one is left with little choice. Though my appetite is limited to the Napoleon/Regency/Georgian Era, I'm tempted to purchase her contemporary modern novels.

Stephen's story was wonderful to read, even though the plot was less in depth than some others in the series and the simplest mind would have figured it out within the first few chapters, it was a great ending to the series.
I'll miss these couples terribly but like I said, they will live on in my heart forever and ever.....I'm almost in tears, this is ridiculous but true. Nothing more to say....go out and purchase this entire series NOW!!!!!!!

5 out of 5 stars Absolutely perfect!!.......2006-07-06

This is my favorite Mary Jo Putney novel. After all, who could resist the delectable characters in One Perfect Rose? I have read all of Mary Jo Putney's books, and I have to say that this is the one that I keep coming back to. (Needless to say, the Fallen Angels series is my favorite series of hers.) In fact, I've reread this so many times that the binding is threatening to fall apart! The characters of Rosalind and Stephen and their love are refreshingly sweet and utterly irrisistible. It is blantantly easy to enter their two different worlds and share the underlying attraction that is always there between them.

Rosalind Fitzgerald Jordan is a sweet widowed actress who is also extremely beautiful;she has grown up in a loving, honest environment despite the "disgrace" of being associated with the theater. Her adoptive parents are also strolling players who are skilled at their craft and thoroughly in love with each other. Stephen Kenyon, the Duke of Ashburton, comes from a completely different world from which he is trying to escape after learning of his nearing death from his physician. Rescuing Rosalind's little brother from drowning in a river, he steps into her world quite ably and the two are caught up in a whirlwind of passion and love.

Several twists are also included in the course of the novel but doesn't detract in any way from the main plotline. Mary Jo Putney is a gifted writer and if you have read any of her books, or even if you haven't even heard of her before, One Perfect Rose is the book to try. All the others will pale in comparison to the dazzle of this romance, and I guarantee that you won't regret it.

5 out of 5 stars Great book!.......2005-02-25

I was bawling like baby at the end of this book. This was the second of her books that I've read and I'm very impressed so far. I read "The Rake" first which is also very good, but I think I like this one better.

5 out of 5 stars Good Book.......2005-02-05

I enjoyed this book. I was expecting something a little more depressing considering Stephen's illness, the male main character. I was very happy that it wasn't depressing at all (I hate depressing books). All the characters are very lovable, except for Stephen's sister. I didn't like her at all. Also, when the truth was finally revealed about Stephen's identity, Rosalind wasn't angry about it for half of the book (they ALWAYS get angry). That was very refreshing. This book was very refreshing in many ways. The only issue I had with the book was very minor. I just didn't believe that Rosalind would really remember that much of her past on her own. She was only 3 or 4 when she was found by her adoptive parents. It just didn't seem all that realistic to me. I'm pretty picky when it comes to realism in books though. That probably wouldn't bother most people.

All in all this was a very good book. It isn't very often that I read a historical romance where the main character believes he has a terminal illness. Also, the way the characters handle certain situations in the book is very refreshing.
Nephilim: The Fallen Ones
Average customer rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars
  • Nephilim: The Fallen Ones
  • Great story, lots of intrigue
  • Mine eyes glazeth over
  • The Spirit Realm Needs Heros Too
  • Nephilim Something for everybody
Nephilim: The Fallen Ones
Walter Keith York
Manufacturer: Green Shoelace Books
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Binding: Paperback
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ASIN: 0961630663

Book Description

Martin McDonald and his wife Rachael were stunned by the turn of events. Wrested from their well-to-do world, they were beguiled into participating in a secret black government project that would forever change their lives. That was the cause for the change; that was the cause of their encounter with these modern end-times Nephilim.

Why were the Nephilim and their hired-gun scientists peering into past and future events through the Bible code? It all became apparent very quickly.

The ancient Nephilim, mentioned in biblical ante-deluvian times and in ancient Greek mythology, were physical giants. They were the mighty men of renown due to their size and aggressiveness. Banned from the earth, they've found a way to return; and although not physical giants this time, their aggressive ways are the same as in ancient times.

Walter York weaves real cutting-edge Bible code matrices using all phrases and sentences in the storyline, to reveal both the ancient and end-times Nephilim. NEPHILIM: the Fallen Ones is a story of good versus evil . . . of love lost and restored . . . of a secret government project gone awry.

Customer Reviews:

1 out of 5 stars Nephilim: The Fallen Ones.......2007-07-17

So - so, although I only spent about $7.95 there are better books out there that you can spend your money on.

4 out of 5 stars Great story, lots of intrigue.......2007-05-10

Here is a story about gov black projects, nephilim etc...that is quite well done, not preachy. Walter Keith York definitely keeps the readers attention by creating 3 dimensional super-vivid characters and wonderful settings--edge of your seat action sequences as well. Excellent writing style as well.


Glass Backwards

1 out of 5 stars Mine eyes glazeth over.......2007-01-12

I dunno why I thought this would be a good book. I gave it my best shot, even through the patently prejudiced way that the family's non-christian daughter is described. Like a cardboard cut-out bad-guy, she is a cariacature of the "difficult teenage daughter". The book lost all credibility for me at that point.

Sidenote: An atheist is not an un-reasoning, petulant, ugly person - their reasoning has simply brought them to a different opinion to that of a Christian... one that should be respected even if disagreed-with (it's called "tolerance"). The fact that the one non-christian was portrayed in such a clearly ridiculous light (and compared with the shining, beautiful christian Michael) completely destroyed my suspension of disbelief.

I decided to try to struggle on - to see if it got any better... but it swiftly descended into bible-code hell. I'm *really* not interested in the details of why people think what they do about bible codes. I personally believe that the entire field of study has no scientific merit whatsoever. This means that any conclusions drawn from it are purely speculative... ie opinion. I can get a person's opinion on religion just by asking. That way it comes without the false cloud of legitimacy that "studying bible codes" is supposed to bring. Read some books on statistics to see why I feel this way. "Innumeracy" is a good one to start with - and written for the layperson.

But besides all this, the bible code description was written in such mind-numbing technical detail that I just couldn't keep on with it. The book would have been much more adaptive to multiple audiences if the technical details was removed safely to an appendix - allowing people to choose to read it if they wished (or not).

4 out of 5 stars The Spirit Realm Needs Heros Too.......2005-05-05

I thought this was a very fun, suspenseful book. The character dialog was a little amatuerish, but that is just me, I guess. The plot was very creative with plenty of twists, surprises and moral lessons to be enjoyable. This book made me think about the world in relation to the spirit realm in a different way. I used to think of the spirit realm as magical or almost mythical, but York's writing allowed me to relate to it as another part of life. Our temporal and spiritual lives may not be as far apart as conventional thinking allows.

4 out of 5 stars Nephilim Something for everybody.......2004-05-20

Nephilim
What fun. Reading Nephilim was great from start to finish. Mystery, Bible codes, history, and a final tie in to our political world today. For a change, a thriller that allowed you to know enough about the characters right from the beginning so you cared about whom they were, and what was going to happen to them. James Bond has nothing over this group in the international intrigue department. Overall this book provided me with some timely and important lessons.

John Ranz
A Catalogue of Angels: The Heavenly, the Fallen, and the Holy Ones Among Us
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    A Catalogue of Angels: The Heavenly, the Fallen, and the Holy Ones Among Us
    Vinita Hampton Wright
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    Our new possessions, four books in one: A graphic account, descriptive and historical, of the tropic islands of the sea which have been fallen under our sway
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      Trumbull White
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      The Fallen Ones (The War of Powers, Book 4)
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        The Fallen Ones (The War of Powers, Book 4)
        Robert Vardeman
        Manufacturer: Ace Books
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        Avengelyne Seraphicide Issue One (Cover Art By Matt Martin) Dec. 2001
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          Avengelyne Seraphicide Issue One (Cover Art By Matt Martin) Dec. 2001
          Robert Lugibihl
          Manufacturer: Avatar Comics
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          ASIN: B000Q648J2

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          Seraphicide Issue One with cover art by Matt Martin. Avengelyne is a fallen angel who has been sent to earth as a punishment for her sins. Once a fearsome member of God's Warhost, Avengelyne must now live as a mortal, albeit with extraordinary physical strength.
          THE CLERIC QUINTET - Book (1) One: Canticle; Book (2) Two: In Sylvan Shadows; Book (3) Three: Night Masks; Book (4) Four: The Fallen Fortress; Book (5) Five: The Chaos Curse
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            THE CLERIC QUINTET - Book (1) One: Canticle; Book (2) Two: In Sylvan Shadows; Book (3) Three: Night Masks; Book (4) Four: The Fallen Fortress; Book (5) Five: The Chaos Curse
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            Fallen One :Legend of the Hawkman Volume 1
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              Fallen One :Legend of the Hawkman Volume 1
              Ben Raab
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              Hellblazer #59 (Guys and Dolls Part One: Fallen Women)
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                Hellblazer #59 (Guys and Dolls Part One: Fallen Women)
                Garth Ennis
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                How to Win Over Depression
                Average customer rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars
                • Life changing
                • LaHaye should actually understand what he's talking about before he speaks.
                • Desperately needs to get its facts straight
                • This book has a lot of good points
                • Wish it were this simple...
                How to Win Over Depression
                Dr. Tim LaHaye
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                ASIN: 0310203260

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                This classic best-seller, which describes the causes of and cure for depression, has been completely revised and updated to reflect the changes in the understanding and treatment of depression in the last two decades.

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                5 out of 5 stars Life changing.......2006-03-16

                I agree with review of Jill Wysong. I read this book in the 80s, and I saw myself. I am convinced that nearly all depression is anger turned inward (=self pity), and we need to accept God's plan for us in order to turn ourselves around permanently. Twenty years of continual low-grade depression evaporated, and I have had no major relapses since then.

                I hand this book out like candy, and admittedly, few people "let it in." Yes, circumstances can be nasty, but the response to them is IN YOU, and you become the cause of your own misery. Can you face it? If you think you can look at yourself honestly, give this book a chance. I do know at least one other person besides myself who also completely turned their life around because of this book. Thank you, thank you, thank you God!

                PS: There is complaint in these reviews about the author's views about anti-depressive drugs. To be honest, I am not a seeker of medication and never considered it as an option. I don't know how up to date the most recent printing is, and frankly, I thought he gave too much space to it. In the end, I honestly and personally don't think medication is the real, lasting answer. Consider this book if you know this in your soul.

                1 out of 5 stars LaHaye should actually understand what he's talking about before he speaks........2006-01-04

                LaHaye starts out by describing his "experience" with depression. He describes a period of basically self-pity when he had disappointed expectations about the purchase of some property. That is VERY different than what a lot of people experience.

                Considering that most mental health professionals describe depression as anger turned inward, saying that someone's depression is due to self-pity is like putting gasoline on a fire.

                I had a doctor suggest that I check out resources on depression when I started becoming ill pretty regularly after a prolonged period of stress. Her suggestion was that I may have developed a chemical depression, and I should try a mild anti-depressant to get my body back to where it should be. Well, I figured I'd try a Christian book on depression because I thought I should learn to take care of my body better so I wouldn't end up wearing myself out.

                I started reading this book, and went from just being a little tired to completely upset. Before this book, I felt as though my life was going pretty great. Afterwards, I felt horrible because I was inflicting all this on myself and others around me.

                After a discussion with someone with actual training in dealing with depression, I realized I just needed to throw this book in the trash.

                Ironically, I was a listener of Christian talk radio, and there was a series on depression from the New Life Live guys. Many of the things that LaHaye suggested were completely discounted. Funny, if I recall, LaHaye has no background education in psychology, which I think would be wise before making some of the blanket assertions he made. Also considering that we know there is a genetic component to depression as basically certain people's bodies don't make enough seratonin to be like "normal" people, some people will have much more difficulty being "normal" due to a physical issue.

                Sure, this book may be good for someone truly masking anger at others in a passive agressive way as depression. In that case, the person thinks they are depressed because of how mistreated they are...being a victim. That's completely different than real depression, and it's physical results.

                I'd find a book by a trained psychologist, and skip this one.

                1 out of 5 stars Desperately needs to get its facts straight.......2002-12-17

                Admittedly, I didn't get through this book. What stopped me was the chapter on the "facts" about antidepressants. LaHaye obviously has a bias against medication, but I would respect him more if he would just admit it rather than dragging out every remotely possible side effect of medications that are not commonly used today. The end of the chapter, discussing Prozac, suggests that it's a new and experimental drug that will likely be as harmful as he claims the ones before it were. Well, Prozac was not exactly new in 1996, at the time of the last revision of this book. In fact, doctors were finding it, along with newer medications, to be safer and just as effective in treating depression. I suspect that LaHaye didn't want to ruin his scary story, but a book that claims to be the truth about depression should at least get its facts straight. Whether to use medication or not in treating depression is a personal choice of every Christian affected, but misinformation about antidepressant medication only complicates the issue. The selective revision of this chapter comes periously close to lying.

                5 out of 5 stars This book has a lot of good points.......2001-05-01

                This particular book helped me get out of a recent deep depression. In particular, it helped to focus on how my anger and self-pity kept the cycle of depression going. It also showed me that I was focusing on the circumstances of my life, keeping myself trapped by what other people might or might not do.

                This book also showed me that while healing might be needed in some areas of my life, I didn't have to wait until that healing was done to get rid of my depression. I highly recommend this book to anyone (but especially Christians) who are struggling with depression or those who have a loved one in that situation.

                2 out of 5 stars Wish it were this simple..........2000-08-26

                In short, this book is not the answer for everyone. I wish it was. The premise in this book is that everyone has difficulties, and that depression is basically choosing to have self-pity about one's difficulties. I agree that a depressed person (like myself) is often self-consumed. But while depression can definitely be caused or contributed to by self-pity, there are other causes.

                Depression can be very complex and can stem from truly *damaged* emotional and mental processes. If a person has been in a difficult situation for years, especially formative years, they may have picked up many wounds and harmful mental processes along the way. It can take years of counseling to learn to think and feel in a healthy way. In other words, a wound is a wound. Being wounded is not a sin. Wounds need *medicine*, and the more severe the wound, the more medicine it may need. The medicine for depression can be spiritual counseling, psychological counseling, medication, or a combination.

                We cannot fix a damaged arm by confessing that the damage is a sin. We cannot fix wounded mental processes, crippled self-image by focusing more on our sinfulness. If you know that you're a sinner and you have a growing relationship with God, and you still deal with wounds and depression, I suggest trying a book by Henry Cloud. He is realistic in helping people deal with past wounds, experience fully God's love and acceptance, and move on.
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