Saul and Patsy
Average customer rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars
  • Is This The Same Charles Baxter?
  • Very relatable, but Feast of Love was better
  • I almost hate myself for this review
  • Great first half
  • Charles Baxter: upinmichigan.org review
Saul and Patsy
Charles Baxter
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Poor Charles Baxter, doomed to be forever thought of as a writer's writer. The languidly plotted Saul and Patsy hardly promises to be his long-awaited breakout novel. It's just too quiet. But for those of us who fervently admire Baxter's prose, that's a selling point. In this tale of a Midwestern marriage, there's lots of time and space for the author to show off his incisive style, studded with the kind of subtle observations that make you stop, laugh, and then feel oddly lanced somewhere in the neighborhood of the soul.

Saul Bernstein has become a high school teacher because he feels a need "to contribute to what he called 'the great project of undoing the dumbness that's been done.'" He and his wife Patsy live in small-town Michigan, where their "love for each other had created a magic circle around themselves that outsiders could not penetrate. No one who had ever met them knew what made the two of them tick; the whole arrangement looked mildly fraudulent." There's a glitch in this idyll, though. One of Saul's students, a mildly retarded boy named Gordy, takes to haunting their house, maybe with malicious intent, maybe not. Gordy hangs around, Saul and Patsy have a baby, and then finally a crisis provokes Saul to decide what kind of man he'd like to be. The novel is, in the end, a portrait not of a marriage, but of an ambivalent, evasive, very funny man. Along the way, we get to know Saul's fed-up wife, his fraudulent brother, and his libidinous mother, who makes this observation of Saul: "As a father, he exhibited great tenderness, which had a touch of vanity in it." It's a classic Baxter aside, at first mildly funny, then barbed with the truth. --Claire Dederer

Customer Reviews:

1 out of 5 stars Is This The Same Charles Baxter?.......2007-08-03

Okay potential reader looking at this review...please don't take my word for it. Read this book yourself and come back and let me know how you found it. People seem to dislike any negative reviews on this web-site. But isn't that the whole point of reviewing books...to share what your own perception of it was? Then you can look at what I like and say 'Hey I loved that too... maybe I'd like some of these other books that she liked as well'...? Right?

I'm not you, I'm me and this is what I thought of this book. It's my opinion, my perception, my feelings about it. It's certainly not the gospel truth. It makes me think about when I was back in high school and I would ask my best friends Lenore and Annie what their opinion was about my shoes...did they go with the outfit or not? (Very serious stuff back in the big 80s) And when they said they didn't like the shoes I often wore them anyway...because I liked them so much that it didn't matter what other people thought about them. I just had to test the theory, that's why I asked them what they thought. So it is the same with books. Just because I don't care for a particular book doesn't mean that you won't love it anyway.

To me a great book is like a marriage. That same wonderfully perfect and adored book can be someone else's dud. Part of what makes that book wonderful is what the reader brings to it, who you are is some of what makes you love that book, it speaks to you (and sometimes not to me).

So, I think you can see from my stars, just one, where I am going with this. I really did not like this book.

I found it hard to believe that this Charles Baxter was the same Charles Baxter who wrote The Feast of Love.

I saw that Saul and Patsy was originally two short stories and that's exactly how it felt. It felt like many different short stories that seemed very disjointed. The whole book seemed to have a stumbling rhythm, it wasn't smooth or fluid.

I didn't like these characters and I just didn't get them. I didn't get Saul's feelings, at all.

There were things that I didn't find believable and there was writing that I thought was just plain weird. I don't like to give away details when I review books so let me just offer these innocuous examples;

"He didn't like to fly because airport terminals and their long receding concourses reminded him of giant vacuum-cleaner hoses sucking him and everyone else into nullity."

"They always reminded Patsy of two healthy animals who had mated almost without thinking. Their stories were always stories about the body; they never got past it."

Maybe you will read these same words and find them funny. Maybe you will bring something to this book that makes it your favorite and most loved of all time.

As for me I was disappointed and glad for it to be over when it was.


3 out of 5 stars Very relatable, but Feast of Love was better.......2007-03-25

The best part of this novel was how accurately it captured early married life and having children. It conveyed a sense that Saul was just being buoyed by the current of his life, and not entirely sure where it was taking him or that he would end up happy. The only thing he seemed sure of was his love for his wife, which never seemed to waver despite his uncertainty about everything else in his life. I just thought it was very poignant, and there are lines from this novel that I still offer up to others because they encapsulate certain feelings so perfectly.

2 out of 5 stars I almost hate myself for this review.......2007-03-04

I have no doubt that Charles Baxter will be noted as one of our most thoughtful and philosophic American writers of this time period. He has moved impressively from short story collections (my experience with his work started with _A Relative Stranger_) to a full-blown novelist. Even from his first novel, _First Light_, Baxter has shown a great mixture of a kind of old-school character depth, with high school teachers able to discuss railroad companies and quote classics in normal conversation, mixed in with a clearly modern sense of the world. His characters remind me somewhat of people who occupy Tony Hoagland poems--people who seem to be stuck in a netherworld of intelligentsia and down-home simplicity. _The Feast of Love_ was a good choice as a finalist for an NBA--perhaps it should have won, but I haven't yet read the competition and winner.

But this novel doesn't ring out like other works, and it seems to spend too long mulling about with little engagement. I almost regret saying these things, and almost feel that I need to rethink my priorities, that maybe I've become a jaded or oversimplified reader, for I very nearly put down this book after about forty pages because I was feeling that Baxter was a little more invested in the young couple that is the primary focus of this book than he was able to convey to me.

To tell the truth, the only thing that really brought me back to this book to gut it out and read through the rest is that the back cover promised some violence, something I would not have predicted from my initial experience in the reading.

Now I really feel ashamed. Baxter is such a wonderful writer, who is able to take the oft-used gimmick of quirkiness and use it to his advantage. Usually, his characters engage me me solely for their oddities that bring out their humanity rather than display their eccentricities. But even with the promised violence of this book, I remained unengaged to the end.

I think Baxter is a wonderful writer. Really. And it is the truly fantastic writer who gets the job done, who finishes a work even though lightning hasn't struck yet and do his job and get his efforts out there into the world.

But unfortunately, this one just wasn't one of his best efforts. But I shouldn't be the one to talk--after all, HE is the one who later put out _The Feast of Love_ and very nearly got one of the big prizes, and I just sit here typing this review.

3 out of 5 stars Great first half.......2006-07-18

"Saul and Patsy" starts off very well. Saul and Patsy are both interesting, flawed characters, and their interactions with Saul's intimidating student, who stands outside their house for hours on end, grab your attention. But about halfway through the story, the novel completely loses its steam.

Some of the novel was adapted from short stories about Saul and Patsy, and I think the novel would be more interesting if Baxter had just collected the stories and added a few more. The old Saul and Patsy stories are basically the best parts of the book. For example, Saul and Patsy's car accident and Saul's resulting obsession with an ex-student, of whom Saul becomes jealous. Great story about a flawed teacher not being the role model he thought and envying his student's contentment with life. Great character, great voice, and great internal conflict.

The plot of the novel falls apart shortly after the "act of violence." New, faceless characters are introduced whose only purpose is to give the reader information that I'm not even sure we need. A one-dimensional teenage girl is introduced more than halfway through the book (the first half is told completely by Saul and Patsy) and contributes nothing except meaningless actions and unbelievable teenage sentiment. She's completely useless. I can't believe that people would react this way to the "act of violence" mentioned in the book description. The town's reaction makes the whole story completely unbelievable.

I'd recommend purchasing Baxter's short story collections, like "A Relative Stranger," and sticking to the Saul and Patsy stories contained therein. You'll get the best slices of this novel, as well as some classic Baxter stories like "A Relative Stranger," about a jerk of a man who meets his long lost adopted brother and doesn't quite know how to react, and "Fenstad's Mother," about a conservative night school teacher who's embarassed by his mother's liberal points of view. Baxter works much better with short fiction.

5 out of 5 stars Charles Baxter: upinmichigan.org review.......2006-04-03

Charles Baxter, Saul and Patsy

reviewed by Cynthia Brandon

With such relatable characters, genuine introspections, and vivid prose, the only thing left to do after putting Baxter's book down, is to thank those who fought for its reincarnation. What is true fiction? Is there such a thing? How can there be when the definition of fiction is something that has been invented, something artificial? In Saul and Patsy, Charles Baxter manages to portray a couple-and a community-that is more real than many discussed in newspapers. Despite its fictitious birth, Saul and Patsy grew into fact because it is able to generate concrete thoughts, uncertainties, and reactions-those that many people would be uncomfortable to reveal. Wrapped up in this fascinating tale of a developing marriage, are convincing events and characters that introduce challenging ideas of guilt, jealousy, and self-worth.

The plot consists of a married man, who despite his mother's strong advice against doing so, moves him and his wife to a small Michigan town-a town that his opinionated and materialistic mother vows will only waste his potential. While unconventional, the blissful couple discovers a form of living where their college degrees are used only to acquire inferior employment. Saul obtains an unfulfilling teaching job, while his pleasant wife, Patsy, easily adjusts and takes on employment at a local bank. For this ostensibly perfect couple, the adjustments they are forced to make prove to be quite interesting. Despite their isolation from city life, and most family, they experience multiple complex incidents which lead to dramatic shifts in their initially faultless relationship.

When Saul and Patsy's tale was first composed, two decades ago, their story ended in death. With twenty years passed, Baxter had realized there was much more of this fascinating pair to be disclosed. Baxter remembers one reader's reaction to their deaths, "Several readers protested; one did so in public, physically grabbing my lapel." Thus, obeying the demands of his readers, Baxter gave his characters life again. In the second attempt at this story, instead of dying in a car crash, Saul and Patsy survived it-something that sat well with many of Baxter's fans. With such relatable characters, interesting introspections, and descriptive writing, the only thing left to do after putting the book down, is to thank those who fought for its reincarnation.

After reading his novel, it was apparent how he had accumulated so many admirers. Identifying with his characters, however strange they may be requires no effort. Without overstating them, Baxter includes concrete examples of realistic feelings. We are able to perceive the character's feelings without being told of them. Jealousy is a great example. When Saul finds himself constantly returning to a new couple's home, it is clear he is envious of their genuine relationship. Later we read "I was always as real as they were, Saul thought. I always was." Baxter confirms our observations with sentences such as this. In this case, implications made are far more powerful than any forthright statement could be.

Along with perfectly capturing his character's feelings, Baxter challenges thoughts of the vast differences between rural and city life. Being from the country, it is easy to empathize with the opinions he displays, but his feelings are so well explained, it seems the absurdities of city life could be made logical to anyone. His combination of comedy and truth create realities understandable to all.

They wore their success on their huge muscular sheet-metal fenders. Darwinian, emotionally Republican even if they were registered Democrats, they had acquired German sedans or American SUV's that looks like staff cars for Rommel, or they had huge spotless V-8 pickup trucks with nothing, ever, in the cargo bed-that would spoil the effect, like a suntan that ended at the shirt collar-and most of them drove with one hand, the other hand on their cell phones relaying news to the home front on how the battle was going.

Here laughing at the image created is unpreventable, but we also grimace at his sadly accurate portrayal of human life. Comments and visuals like this trouble the reader, making it appear as if Baxter has acquired these accurate opinions straight from their own thoughts.

Honesty, a major product of this novel, is one of the main elements that give it purpose. Even when marriage is discussed, there are comments made that most people would never admit: "His joy was manufactured for her benefit--she could instantly tell-but manufactured joy was better than none at all, and she admired his efforts to be glad on her behalf." When Baxter's characters or his own narrative reveal thoughts, they seem real and uncreated. Straightforward comments, like the one above, create an extremely believable couple-no matter how eccentric they may be.

Mostly because it is uncommon, such honesty in Baxter's words lures in readers. Saul and Patsy is not a sentimental romance that ends with one direct, comforting answer; but a process of actions and thoughts that breeds compelling questions within the reader. Hesitant to reduce his works down to symbols, I give Baxter's book a justifiable 5/5 stars. This thoughtful novel quickly generates an addiction, one that will not be cured until the last page is reached.










Hitler and the Jews: The Genesis of the Holocaust
Average customer rating: 3 out of 5 stars
  • A new work on the Holocaust leaves many questions unanswered
Hitler and the Jews: The Genesis of the Holocaust
Philippe Burrin
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Burrin offers bold new insights into the web of decisions and events that led eventually to a genocide unprecedented in character and unparalleled in scale.

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3 out of 5 stars A new work on the Holocaust leaves many questions unanswered.......1996-11-27

During the past twenty years historians have debated the circumstances in which the `Final Solution' became reality and the role of Hitler in the planning and execution of mass murder. The two schools of thought have been labelled `intentionalist' and `functionalist' (or `structuralist').
Burrin attempts to give us a synthesis of the current debate. He agrees with the intentionalists, but as Christopher Browning has previously done, Burrin argues that a killing final solution "would be carried out only in the event of a well-defined situation such as the failure of his [Hitler's] planned world conquests" (p. 23).
Passing over much previously studied ground, Burrin argues that Hitler had developed a notion of `conditional mass murder' even before the Nazi Machtergreifung. This notion developed throughout the early years of Nazi rule. Further to this he cites a previously overlooked document written by Walter Gross, the head of the Nazi Bureau of Racial Policy. The document, dated 25 September 1935, is a record of a meeting between Hitler and his regional chiefs on the implications of the infamous Nuremburg Racial Laws. Gross recorded Hitler as saying that "in the event of a war on all fronts", Hitler "would be ready for any consequences" (p. 49). Burrin argues that in the context of the conversation, which focussed exclusively on the `Jewish Question', the statement is a barely veiled threat of conditional mass murder and that Hitler's infamous Reichstag speech of 30 January 1939 was merely a continuation of this idea. The problem with Burrin's interpretation is that it relies too much on language. The peculiarities and dualism of Nazi idiom have long been recognised. There is no doubt that the document cited may be a `signpost' on the path to destruction, but it is not a smoking gun.
Burrin argues that the decision to implement full-scale mass murder came from Hitler in mid-September, 1941. There are two central turning points: the first is that by August, the killing of Soviet Jews had reached genocidal proportions; the second is that the decision was made to deport Jews to the East was made in mid-September. It is at this point, Burrin argues, that the final decision was made (p. 134).
The major piece of evidence that Burrin uses to come to this conclusion is another previously overlooked document. Burrin analyses a communication from Reinhard Heydrich (Chief of the Security Police and Security Service) to OKH (High Command of the Army) dated 6 November 1941. In the letter Heydrich takes responsibility for the destruction of Paris synagogues on 2-3 October. The attack took place as a retaliation against assaults on sympathetic French politicians. Heydrich states that he accepted assistance from French collaborators (in attacking the synagogues) "only from the moment when, at the highest level, Jewry had been forcefully designated as the culpable incendiary in Europe, one which must definitely disappear from Europe" (p. 124). Burrin interprets the passage as meaning that "the deportation order had been, simultaneously, an extermination order" (p. 124). Burrin interprets the language as indicating that the order came from Hitler. The problem with this argument, once again, is that it relies on the Nazi idiom too much. In the end it is no more and no less inflammatory than any Nazi rhetoric either proceeding or following it.
Burrin has not pushed forward the debate-most of his findings have been previously aired. In the end, he has only reconfirmed the findings of other scholars. These criticisms aside, Burrin has done scholarship a service by mining the archives for under-utilised documentation. Burrin's work should be read as a synthesis of the available views, not for new insights. As a work of this sort Hitler and the Jews performs admirably.
Saul and Patsy
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    Saul and Patsy
    Charles Baxter
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      Charles Baxter
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        Charles Baxter
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        Over a millennium ago, Erna, a seismically active yet beautiful world was settled by colonists from far-distant Earth. But the seemingly habitable planet was fraught with perils no one could have foretold, and the colonists found themselves caught in a desperate battle for survival against the fae, a terrifying natural force with the power to prey upon the human mind itself, drawing forth a person's worst nightmare images or most treasured dreams and indiscriminately giving them life.

        Twelve centuries after fate first stranded the colonists on Erna, mankind has achieved an uneasy stalemate, and human sorcerers manipulate the fae for their own profit, little realizing that demonic forces which feed upon such efforts are rapidly gaining in strength. Now, as the hordes of the dark fae multiply, four people -- Priest, Adept, Apprentice, and Sorcerer -- are about to be drawn inexorably together for a mission which will force them to confront an evil beyond their imagining, in a conflict which will put in jeopardy not only their own lives -- but the very fate of humankind.

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        4 out of 5 stars Combo of Sci-Fi and Fantasy.......2007-04-11

        This is a nice combo platter of two interesting genres. It SEEMS like its going to be the same old same old, but then you realize very quickly that this book is quite different. Interesting characters with enjoyable conflict. The second and third books are better - but reading this will not be a chore.

        3 out of 5 stars Fell apart a bit...................2007-01-30

        The basic plot premise of this book is to introduce 4 characters who go on an adventure to "save the world" (standard fantasy style) and to return to one of the characters her lost memory. You meet Gerald Terrant, the dark, enigmatic adept; Damien, the honorable priest; Senzei, the power hungry sorcerer and Ciani, the apprentice who has lost her memories to demons. (At least I think Senzei is the sorcerer and Ciani is the apprentice, I was never really quite sure and that annoyed me. I really like Tarrant who is basically evil, but struggles with honor and Senzei, who is basically good but struggles with power hungry tendencies, they seemed to have the most depth.

        There are natural forces akin to magic called the fae, dark fae, earth fae, etc. Here is where my first real issue comes, the author never really explains in detail what the fae is. I like my magic fully explained in fantasy books, complete with rules so that I can see for myself where it might come in useful instead of it becoming just a deus ex machina way to get out of bad situations and this book failed to do that.

        The world building is pretty good. It's a dark gothic world that is a bit fascinating. In fact, it is so dark, that I almost didn't even believe the times when the sun came out. Which says quite a bit for the author's writing ability in scenic detail. However, this world seems to be a parallel to earth and has things called unhorses, uncats, etc. Again, this is never fully explained, so I didn't quite get it. The author would have been better served by having a short history somewhere in the beginning of the book about what happened to earth, why people colonized on this planet and what the parallels and differences are...

        All in all, it was an average book in the fantasy/sci-fi genre with a few interesting concepts. I did buy the series as a whole, so I will read the other two. I hope they get better from here.

        2 out of 5 stars Despite a great premise - formulaic story, bland characters.......2007-01-21

        Thin plot, boring characters (besides the Hunter, who is the only character worth caring about, but he's evil) and very little action makes this book very slow and bland.

        The fae premise, while confusing and not very well explained (or shown) in this book, is really cool. Unfortunately the plot and characters aren't up to par with the great premise.

        The characters aren't portrayed very deeply. They each go through some trials early on, but these are quickly forgotten. Instead of character development, the author spends time discussing this journey they are on, even though the premise for the journey is weak, and they seem to stumble upon the villain awfully easily.

        In a world where (supposedly) people's fears are manifested into reality, I don't recall that ever happening in this book.

        Very cool premise, interesting world - combined with bland characters, no plot, and average writing made this book a huge disappointment. Don't bother with the rest of the series.

        4 out of 5 stars starts fast and winds down..........2005-12-15

        I hadn't read any of Friedman's books previously, so this started off as a pleasant surprise. The opening is fast, gripping, and delicious: atmospheric and encapsulating many interesting directions that it could go.

        Behind the prelude, though, is a more standard modern epic fantasy. The mix of SF and fantasy is nice and nicely handled, reminiscent of Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series. Friedman writes well and the text has a nicely lush quality to it.

        That's a lot of "nice" where perhaps some more risks should be taken. If there is a problem with this book, it is the pedestrian plot and the characterization. While the characters are not as irksomely cardboard as some big sword-and-sorcery books, they are not very deep, mostly puppets to jerk to the tune of the author. There are some holes in the plot that are a bit annoying.

        Still, overall I liked this effort, but it took some work to read it cover to cover.

        3 out of 5 stars Black Sun Rising: Hope the tempo starts RISING in 2nd + 3rd.......2005-05-20

        Although this novel has garnered many positive reviews, I do not believe it deserves such rich credit. I bought this trilogy solely based on the plethora of 5 star reviews and found myself sadly lacking in confidence over my transaction. "Black Sun Rising", was a formulaic fantasy at best; slow and grating, predictable and infruriating all at the same time. Friedman has taken what should have been a new and invigorating ideal in fantasy and given it the same pale complexity the likes of which Gerald Tarrant(Antagonist) supposedly wears. Speaking of which, here's another witty response, highly over-rated antagonist!. If you want a complex, dark natured antagonist fraught with an inner battle of good vs. evil but whom tends to lean toward the latter, read the, "Dragonlance Chronicles", trilogy in which you will meet one of the greatest chararcters in the fantasy genre, Raistlin Majere. Although it was an elementary trilogy with formulaic sub-plots, it was entirely enjoyable to read. In short B.S.R was a disappointing entrance to a trilogy, I can only hope it gets better from here on in of which all your other reviews persuade me to believe!.
        21st Century Japan: A New Sun Rising (Black Rose)
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          Trevor W. Harrison is a professor and chair in the Department of Sociology at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, and editor of Return of the Trojan Horse: Alberta and the New World (Dis)Order.

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                      Black Sun Rising
                      Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
                      • Just plain excellent
                      Black Sun Rising

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                      5 out of 5 stars Just plain excellent.......2007-03-14

                      If you're looking for a fantasy book that does something more than bash swords around in a ridiculously over-complicated socio-politcal system, welcome to Erna and the Cold Fire Trilogy. This book has remained one of my all time favorites for many years and is well complimented by it's sister books. What I like best about it is it's combination of fantastic and scientific aspects and realistic characters. The "hero", if he can be called that, is neither good hearted nor blundering, but cold, single minded and down-right terrifying - but you like him anyway - and that is one of the hardest things to do well in a story - it's worth reading just to get a chance to meet him.

                      The story takes place on another planet called Erna, reached by ancient people from earth. The environment of Erna, for a change, is as rich and complex as the characters. Imagine an enviornment that can respond directly to your needs. But what humans need comes through in complex emotions, too complex for an alien world to interpret. Unfortunately, you may fall asleep in such a world and have a nightmare, and when you wake up it's really there - and ripping your legs off. C.S. Friedman does an excellent job of exploring the positive and negative aspects of this kind of environment. There are some nasty things which really go bump in the night which I can still picture clearly years after reading it. Another thing that sets this book apart is that at no time, that I can remember, does the author get trite or cute, but handles a large vision of the spiritual/supernatural and of human psychology with a straight-forwardness and realism that gets you involved from page 1.

                      It's hard to talk about the characters too much without giving away the plot, but the reluctant comrades of this novel are one, completely self-serving, frightening mostly dead man (evil), one sword-wielding church enforcer (for lack of a better term - aka. good), one adept who can see and manipulate the planet's raw power (intellectual - wild card) and one apprentice (you guessed it, the weak link). The team joins forces under the only circumstances that could make them, a terrifying threat to the whole planet's survival. There are enough battles, intrigues, magic and trials to satisfy even the most jaded fantasy reader.

                      So, in summary, if you want well constructed science ficition setting with a nice dash of terror, good psychological and emotional exploration from the characters, a little magic, the supernatural and a fantastic story, this is the place to look. The series continues and does an excellent job of rounding out not only the plot and the characters, but the complex ecology and nature of Erna. Won't be disappointed.
                      Black Sun Rising
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                        Black Sun Rising
                        C. S. Friedman
                        Manufacturer: DAW Books
                        ProductGroup: Book
                        Binding: Hardcover
                        ASIN: B000OIR7ZO

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